Episode 1029 · Oct 5, 2003 · 2h 51m
October 5, 2003: Alien Implants & Extraterrestrials - Dr. Roger Leir, Mike Heiser, & Richard C. Hoagland
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Open transcriptImplants emit 6 milligauss, then go darkLeir reports that 10 of 11 surgically removed objects show anomalies: while inside the body they emit a 6 milligauss electromagnetic field, generate no inflammatory response, and the surrounding nerve cells are reorganized - then once removed, they go silent.
Magnetic without molecular structureNew Mexico Tech and other labs find amorphous iron inside the objects - no molecular structure - yet the objects are strongly magnetic, which the metallurgists tell Leir they cannot explain.
15% of abductees may carry implantsLeir applies the Roper poll's 2 percent abduction figure across the world and estimates roughly 15 percent of abductees may be carrying implanted objects, comparing it to how humans tag lesser life forms.
Face on Mars is the theological third railHoagland argues that if the Face on Mars is not Martian but refers to humans, it forces the conclusion of intervention by an alien presence - the third rail of the theological debate that Heiser, an ancient-languages scholar, must reckon with.
Richard C. Hoagland presents a new pre-dawn infrared image of the Face on Mars taken by the Mars Odyssey spacecraft. He argues the eastern side of the Face shows over 99 percent reflectivity, behaving like a specular mirror rather than natural rock, while surrounding terrain reflects only 7 to 15 percent of light. Hoagland contends this supports his long-held theory that the structure contains manufactured materials and that the eastern side was protected from erosion.
Mike Heiser rounds out the program previewing the upcoming God, Man, and ET conference at the University of Wisconsin. He and Hoagland debate whether mainstream theology could accommodate a genuine extraterrestrial reality, with Heiser arguing that medieval theologians already entertained the possibility of other inhabited worlds while acknowledging the explosive implications of discovering human origins tied to Mars.
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