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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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October 26, 1999: Telepathy & Predictions - Uri Geller | The X-Files - Chris Carter

Oct 26, 1999
2h 34m
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Art Bell interviews X-Files creator Chris Carter about the cancellation of Harsh Realm after only three episodes and the upcoming seventh season of The X-Files. Carter reveals that airline pilots he meets almost always report having seen UFOs, and he shares how government insiders have told him his fictional stories come unsettlingly close to classified truths. They discuss the coming millennium, a possible second X-Files film, and Lance Henriksen reprising his Millennium role.

In the second half, Art speaks with Uri Geller, the Israeli-born psychic known worldwide for spoon bending and telepathy. Geller recounts his childhood discovery of psychokinetic abilities, his service in the Six-Day War, and his secret work with the CIA attempting to erase floppy disks and influence Soviet negotiators. He describes being asked to kill a pig with his mind in a government laboratory and refusing.

Geller conducts a live experiment asking listeners to concentrate on broken watches and clocks. Callers from Hawaii, Reno, and New York report timepieces suddenly working again, while others describe spoons moving near their radios. The segment becomes a demonstration of collective psychic energy channeled through the broadcast.

Key Moments

  1. X-Files 'Sixth Extinction' premiere lands on November 7: Chris Carter explains that the upcoming X-Files episode 'The Sixth Extinction' is built around scientists' projection of a sixth mass extinction tied to extraterrestrial life, and Art notes the air date of November 7, 1999 lines up with rumors he has been tracking.

  2. Geller killed a Jordanian soldier in the Six-Day War: Uri Geller shares, with rare candor, that during the 1967 Six-Day War a Jordanian soldier jumped from behind a rock and Geller shot him first; he says the man's mustachioed face still returns in recurring nightmares.

  3. Geller as psychic adjunct to U.S. nuclear arms talks: Geller claims Senator Claiborne Pell and chief U.S. arms negotiator Max Kampelman arranged for him to attend Geneva talks and mentally pressure Soviet negotiator Yuli Vorontsov to sign a nuclear treaty, with Vice President Al Gore standing beside him.

  4. Erasing KGB floppy disks and the pig in the white room: Geller describes CIA tasking to remotely erase KGB couriers' floppy disks chained to their wrists in transit, and a separate desert-laboratory test in which a scientist left him alone with a pig and asked him to stop its heart by mind alone, which he refused.

  5. On-air mass spoon and watch experiment: Geller leads listeners through a live three-count 'work' chant intended to restart broken watches and bend spoons in their homes, framing Art Bell's audience as a collective catalyst for psychokinesis.