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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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November 19, 1995: Communion - Whitley Strieber

Nov 19, 1995
1h 29m
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Whitley Strieber joins Art Bell to discuss his latest book Breakthrough, which presents compelling evidence that the beings he calls "the visitors" are real. Strieber describes a recent physical encounter at his home that became the final chapter of his upcoming book The Secret School, including a severe allergic reaction he associates with the close approach of non-human beings. He recounts being transported forward in time, seeing himself decades in the future, and developing what he describes as memories from that timeline.

The conversation turns to geopolitical dangers, including the instability of the Russian government, the possibility of loose Soviet nuclear devices, and the compromised state of the CIA following the Aldrich Ames affair. Strieber warns that a nuclear detonation in Washington could occur without warning and leave no functioning government to respond. He shares his view that the intelligence community has been passing disinformation for years.

Strieber addresses the Roswell autopsy footage, noting the eye coverings as the one familiar detail from his own encounters. He discusses the military's troubled relationship with the visitors, the connection between the encounter experience and the dead, and his belief that humanity stands on the verge of a massive evolutionary leap in consciousness.

Key Moments

  1. Allergic-attack visitor encounter and forward time-jump: Strieber describes the recent encounter that became the final chapter of The Secret School: a violent allergy attack woke him at night, he saw a familiar face peering through the doorway, and was plunged forward roughly 25 years to see himself and his wife as old people picking pecans in a garden.

  2. Roswell autopsy footage and the eye-cover detail: Strieber says only the removable eye coverings in the alleged Roswell autopsy film match what he has personally seen - humanoids with eyes so striking he commissioned a self-portrait with them. He estimates an 80% chance the footage is genuine, contingent on chemical dating of the film stock.

  3. NRO billion-dollar slush fund and Area 51 money trail: Strieber connects the National Reconnaissance Office's hidden billion-dollar slush fund - recently discovered by Congress - to UFO programs, recounting that he told congressional investigators years ago to follow the money trail at Area 51 rather than chase names.