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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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November 26, 1995: Linda Moulton Howe interviews Jim Marrs | Remote Viewing & Past Lives - Dr. Bruce Goldberg

Nov 26, 1995
1h 54m
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Linda Moulton Howe and author Jim Marrs join Art Bell to examine the U.S. government's secret remote viewing program. Marrs explains how military-trained psychics at SRI discovered that remote viewing operates across both space and time, citing Pat Price's ability to describe target locations before observers arrived. He details how remote viewers perceive multiple alien races interacting with Earth and clarifies that the technique allows observation but not physical interference with targets. Howe reports on the CIA's recent acknowledgment of the program, codenamed Stargate.

Art Bell investigates a mysterious 8.0 earthquake reported by Reuters and multiple news agencies that authorities later denied. Listeners and news sources confirmed hearing the report, yet official records show no such event, creating an unexplained discrepancy that generates considerable listener response throughout the broadcast.

Dr. Bruce Goldberg, a hypnotherapist and author of A Search for Grace, discusses the connections between remote viewing, past life regression, and future life progression. He explains how self-hypnosis and alpha-state techniques can substitute for hours of sleep and describes how patients across 18 years of clinical work independently report consistent details about future events.

Key Moments

  1. Pat Price sees an SRI target 20 minutes before the team arrives: Marrs recounts the SRI experiment that proved remote viewing isn't bound by time: former police inspector Pat Price gave a clear description of a sealed-envelope target location 20 minutes before the field team even opened the envelope and arrived.

  2. Psychic warfare program - viewers can look but not strike: Marrs distinguishes psychic spying from psychic warfare: the size spies he interviewed concluded that, while ELF and MK-Ultra-style programs may target the body, remote viewing itself cannot physically affect a target - you can only look.

  3. Ingo Swann remote-views Jupiter's ring six years before Voyager: Marrs says SRI pioneer Ingo Swann remote-viewed Jupiter roughly six years before the Voyager flyby and recorded a small ring of debris and electromagnetic-field details in his notebooks - observations Marrs claims to have seen personally and that Voyager later confirmed.