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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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July 10, 1997: Roswell Investigator - John Kirby

Jul 10, 1997
2h 55m
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Art Bell welcomes researcher John Kirby from Portland for a definitive wrap-up of Roswell's 50th anniversary. Kirby presents audio recordings from key witnesses, starting with Walter Haut, the officer who delivered the famous press release announcing the capture of a flying saucer. Haut explains that Colonel Blanchard handed him the draft and sent him to the local media. He describes the event with striking calm, noting he delivered the release and went home for lunch.

Frank Kaufman, who claims he was part of the impact site cleanup crew, describes the craft as roughly 24 feet long with a shape resembling a stealth bomber. He reports finding bodies and describes the beings as small, about five feet tall, with ash-colored skin and features that looked surprisingly human. He dismisses the Santilli autopsy film as a hoax.

Jesse Marcel Jr. recounts handling debris his father brought home, including foil-like material and small I-beams bearing purple geometric symbols. He disputes the mogul balloon explanation after examining actual mogul materials. A rare tape captures Jesse Marcel Sr. phoning his son years later. Colonel DuBose confirms the balloon was a cover story, and Major Easley says he remains sworn to secrecy.

Key Moments

  1. Reading the July 8, 1947 Roswell Daily Record headline: Kirby reads the original July 8, 1947 Roswell Daily Record headline - 'RAAF captures flying saucer on ranch in the Roswell region' - and names Walter Haut, then living in Roswell with wife Lorraine, as the officer who released it.

  2. Walter Haut audio: how the flying-disc press release went out: In Kirby's recorded interview with Walter Haut, Haut describes Colonel Blanchard handing him a finished press release between 10 and 10:30 a.m., which he delivered to the Roswell newspapers and radio station before going home for lunch.

  3. Frank Kaufman as the disputed cleanup-team witness: Kirby introduces Frank Kaufman, who claims he was called to the impact site north of Roswell, and addresses the U.S. News & World Report attack noting Kaufman was discharged in 1945 - countering with documentation that Kaufman transferred to civilian S-1 personnel work still tied to the military.

  4. Jesse Marcel Jr. on the kitchen-floor debris and I-beams: Audio of Jesse Marcel Jr. recalling his father waking the family, debris covering an 8-by-10-foot kitchen floor, foil with no paper backing, black Bakelite-like plastic, and quarter-inch metal I-beams 12-18 inches long with purple-violet hieroglyphic-like markings.