Taylor describes verifying his experiences by visiting colleagues and accurately describing details of their homes he had never physically seen. He explains that the soul can perceive physical reality, pass through walls, and travel at speeds far beyond light. The conversation takes an unexpected turn when Taylor discusses astral sex, describing sensations ten times more intense than anything physical. Art admits he has experienced sleep paralysis many times but has never been able to let go of the fear and cross over.
Taylor also recounts a troubling experience with time travel in which he witnessed his own future marital breakdown, which later came to pass despite his efforts to prevent it. He warns listeners that seeing the future carries emotional risks. The program opens with updates on Dannion Brinkley recovering from three brain aneurysms and the passing of Mother Teresa.
Key Moments
Stealth, B-1, Space Station, SDI background: Taylor lays out his aerospace credentials: two-decade secret clearance, work on the stealth fighter and B-1 bomber, training astronauts at Johnson Space Center on space-station docking units, and co-designing satellite components for Reagan's SDI program.
Sleep paralysis is the disconnect moment: Taylor explains the night-paralysis experience that flooded Bell's phone lines: the soul or astral form has disconnected from the body's neural controls, and just shifting your intention to move the 'second body' (Monroe's term) lets you leave consciously.
Verifying OBE travel with engineer friends: Taylor describes early experiments where space-station co-workers placed letters or numbers behind closet doors as targets - and he correctly reported, after one trip, that a married doctor friend slept apart from her husband and used a heating pad on her leg at night.
Soul Traveler movie deal - four studios: Taylor says four major studios are negotiating for Soul Traveler after Amber Wave Media first approached him during Dreamland - and he wrote the screenplay himself rather than hand it to a Hollywood writer.