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Art Bell reunites with Dr. Albert Taylor, a former aeronautical engineer who worked on the International Space Station, the F-117A stealth fighter, and the Strategic Defense Initiative, to discuss out-of-body experiences. Taylor recounts how spontaneous OBEs began disrupting his life so frequently that he sought psychiatric evaluation, only to receive a clean bill of health. Left without a medical explanation, he turned his scientific training toward documenting the phenomenon.
Taylor shares his step-by-step technique for inducing OBEs, which he calls the interrupted sleep method. He advises setting an alarm for two in the morning, staying awake for about an hour, then lying perfectly still until the body drops off while consciousness remains alert. He describes the telltale signs of separation: loud buzzing, rushing wind, paralysis, and sometimes hearing your own body snoring. Fear, he emphasizes, is the primary barrier.
The discussion takes a profound turn when Taylor reveals that during OBEs he has encountered deceased relatives and communicated through shared emotion rather than spoken words. He describes these meetings as confirmation that consciousness survives physical death. Callers share their own experiences, including one man whose cat appeared to separate from its body alongside him during an OBE.
Taylor shares his step-by-step technique for inducing OBEs, which he calls the interrupted sleep method. He advises setting an alarm for two in the morning, staying awake for about an hour, then lying perfectly still until the body drops off while consciousness remains alert. He describes the telltale signs of separation: loud buzzing, rushing wind, paralysis, and sometimes hearing your own body snoring. Fear, he emphasizes, is the primary barrier.
The discussion takes a profound turn when Taylor reveals that during OBEs he has encountered deceased relatives and communicated through shared emotion rather than spoken words. He describes these meetings as confirmation that consciousness survives physical death. Callers share their own experiences, including one man whose cat appeared to separate from its body alongside him during an OBE.
Key Moments
Interrupted sleep induction: Taylor describes interrupted sleep as his preferred technique for inducing an out-of-body state.
Buzzing and rushing wind: Taylor names paralysis, hearing oneself snore, rushing wind, and a loud buzz as signs that an OBE is beginning.
Deceased relatives encountered: Taylor says his OBEs repeatedly led to encounters with deceased relatives.
Communication by emotion: Taylor describes communicating with a deceased aunt not just mentally but through shared emotion.
Out-of-body with a cat: Taylor recounts an OBE in which he interacted with the apparent spirit form of his sleeping kitten.