Episode 0682 · Sep 29, 1999 · 3h 12m
September 29, 1999: Gordon Lightfoot | Soviet UFOs - Paul Stonehill
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Open transcriptStonehilla military dictatorship is coming to Russia: Stonehill, a Ukrainian-born researcher, predicts a military takeover in post-Soviet Russia by someone like General Lebed or worse, citing 'fake capitalism,' anarchy, and bureaucrats stealing soldiers' food money while millionaires will eventually be nationalized and publicly executed.
Russia is nuclear-blackmailing the West for IMF loansStonehill argues Russia and Ukraine are using their nuclear inventory and decaying reactors as leverage - implying they will sell weapons to rogue states unless IMF money keeps flowing - while soldiers eat putrid fish and dollars vanish into Swiss accounts.
Vodka stains on the Y2K keyboardsStonehill recounts a Kamchatka source telling him that military computer keyboards there are stained with vodka, no one is preparing for Y2K, and soldiers are too busy bartering potatoes to survive to worry about rollover failures.
U.S. went to Russia for the Roswell filesStonehill says U.S. agencies obtained 'Stalin's Roswell files' during the brief 1989-1992 window of openness, after which Russian UFO researchers began being killed, maimed, or disappeared.
Stalin, Korolev, and the Tunguska alien spaceship fileStonehill describes Sergei Korolev, the father of Soviet space science, being locked in a Kremlin room with Stalin's UFO documents and emerging convinced UFOs were real but not an immediate threat. He ties this to a 1949 Beria-led KGB expedition to the Tunguska site that concluded the 1908 explosion was an alien spacecraft.
The second half features Soviet-born researcher Paul Stonehill discussing UFO phenomena behind the Iron Curtain. Stonehill describes how Stalin was briefed on UFO documents, including materials related to Roswell, and how Soviet naval intelligence amassed extensive files on unidentified underwater objects moving at impossible speeds. He recounts an incident where Soviet divers attempting to capture a nine-foot humanoid "swimmer" at the bottom of a lake were violently expelled and killed by decompression.
Stonehill also provides a sobering analysis of post-Soviet Russia, warning that economic collapse and military frustration could lead to a military dictatorship under figures like General Lebed, with dangerous implications for nuclear security and Western relations.
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