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A Cultural History of Art Bell

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September 25, 1996: OBE's - Dr. Albert Taylor

Sep 25, 1996
2h 54m
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Aerospace engineer Albert Taylor, whose career includes classified work on the F-117 Stealth fighter and NASA's International Space Station program, joins Art Bell to explain the phenomenon behind the flood of sleep paralysis calls that have overwhelmed the show in recent weeks. Taylor experienced death-like night paralysis from age five, episodes his New Orleans grandmother attributed to witches riding him in his sleep. Rather than accept folk explanations or medical dismissals, the scientist spent years researching what he came to understand as the gateway to out-of-body experiences.

Taylor walks listeners through the physiology of sleep paralysis, describing the buzzing sounds, heavy pressure, roaring wind, and visual sparks that signal the disconnection of consciousness from the physical body. He outlines his Interrupted Sleep Technique, a method he claims succeeds eight out of ten times, involving a deliberate middle-of-the-night waking period followed by deep relaxation. The key, he explains, is surrendering the instinct to fight the paralysis and instead directing intention toward floating upward and away from the body.

The conversation deepens as Taylor describes verifiable out-of-body visits to locations he has never physically seen, encounters with deceased relatives, and a 1993 experience that permanently removed his fear of death. Art presses him on the darker possibilities, including whether astral travelers could invade others' experiences.

Key Moments

  1. Taylor's doctor: 'happens to me all the time, so you must be okay': Taylor describes finally getting up the nerve to ask his doctor about his nighttime paralysis, fearing a neurological problem. The doctor smiled, patted him on the back, and said it happens to her all the time and was therefore fine - the totality of the medical workup.

  2. First experience at age 5 in New Orleans - grandmother's 'witch rides': Taylor traces his sleep paralysis to age five in New Orleans. His grandmother and great-grandmother had it too. He'd run into her room saying he couldn't move; she'd pat his head and say the witches were riding him last night - the southern superstition framing the experience.

  3. Phenomenology - paralyzed but super-conscious, glasses-free clarity: Taylor describes the actual sensorium of sleep paralysis: super-conscious alertness, the room visible with crystal clarity even though he wears glasses and should be seeing it blurred, full hearing and smell, plus the heaviness - like sustained two or three Gs across the whole body - and the falling-through-the-bed sensation.