Episode 1368 · Sep 19, 2013 · 3h 29m
September 19, 2013: NASA's LADEE Moon Mission & Curiosity's Gale Crater - Richard C. Hoagland
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Open transcriptWho built the lunar dome?Art presses Hoagland: if the Surveyor image really shows a lunar dome, who put it there? Hoagland answers with three options - earthlings a long, long time ago; ETs (humans living off-world); or true aliens with non-human DNA.
Apollo 12 brings back shattered glassHoagland says the Apollo 12 mission, landing two years after Surveyor 6 and right next to the alleged dome region, brought home an extraordinary 20-30 percent of shattered glass mixed into the lunar regolith samples.
LADEE has no cameras - on purposeHoagland reveals NASA's brand-new lunar atmosphere mission carries only three non-imaging instruments: a UV/visible spectrometer, dust detector, and laser. No cameras - so any dome won't be photographed, only inferred from squiggly graphs the public can't read.
Cydoniamost-photographed nothing on Mars: Hoagland argues that NASA publicly dismisses the Cydonia face as 'a pile of rocks' yet has, over 30 years, made it the single most photographed region on Mars - a contradiction he calls the height of scientific hypocrisy.
Brookings, religion, and motive for the cover-upHoagland points to the 1960 Brookings Report's warning that disclosure of others would deeply impact our institutions - chiefly religion - and argues that ultimately the secrecy comes down to control of the planet.
Hoagland compares the original NASA print from the Goddard Space Flight Center with a 2009 digital version published in a peer-reviewed journal, arguing both show identical geometric patterns unexplainable by natural phenomena. He points to Apollo 12 footage from the film Pinpoint for Science displaying similar layered structures in the lunar sky, and notes that lunar soil samples brought back by astronauts contain an extraordinary percentage of glass fragments.
The discussion expands to the newly launched LADEE mission, which Hoagland suspects may carry undisclosed star tracker cameras capable of confirming his dome hypothesis. Art pushes back on the implications, and the two debate whether NASA astronauts may have had their memories of lunar surface observations altered. Hoagland connects the alleged cover-up to broader questions about suppressed technology that could transform civilization.
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