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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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September 18, 2002: Underground Expeditions - Bonnie Crystal | Legalizing Marijuana - Billy Rogers

Sep 18, 2002
2h 46m
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Art Bell brings two guests to the program on a night covering vastly different territory. In the first segment, Billy Rogers, campaign manager of Nevadans for Responsible Law Enforcement, discusses Question 9, a ballot measure that would make Nevada the first state to legalize possession of up to three ounces of marijuana for adults over 21. Rogers details how the initiative would ban public smoking, criminalize sales to minors, and create state-licensed shops generating millions in tax revenue.

Art then welcomes close friend and technologist Bonnie Crystal, a Silicon Valley inventor whose video noise reduction technology shrank satellite dishes in the 1980s and whose company Telogen is developing revolutionary flat panel displays. They revisit the ongoing mystery of Art's 1,000-foot loop antenna, which Crystal helped install, and its persistent 350-volt charge from the atmosphere. After experimenting with bleeder resistors and enduring repeated shocks, Art finally reduces the resistance enough to eliminate the voltage.

Crystal describes her work as a cave explorer, including discovering the deepest freefall pit in the Southern Hemisphere during a Peru expedition, a thousand-foot vertical drop only eight feet in diameter. The conversation also touches on her book about CB radio culture, her ham radio operations, and the Egyptian pyramid controversy involving photographs that appear to differ from footage aired during a recent live television special.

Key Moments

  1. What the Nevada initiative would actually do: Billy Rogers explains the Nevada ballot initiative would let adults 21 and older possess up to three ounces, expand medical marijuana, ban public smoking, send anyone selling to children to prison, and tax marijuana like tobacco.

  2. Three times easier to buy weed than beer: Rogers cites a survey of 12 to 17 year olds reporting it was three times easier to buy marijuana than beer, arguing a regulated market with clerks who card would actually reduce youth access.

  3. Did Hawass crack the pyramid door?: Comparing 1993 photos of Gantenbrink's pyramid shaft door with the live Fox broadcast images, Bonnie Crystal concludes the right metal handle appears broken off, suggesting the robot grabbed and pulled it between expeditions, then quietly hid the damage.

  4. Lechuguilla: chandeliers, rivers, and underground lakes: Crystal describes Lechuguilla Cave in New Mexico, the most beautiful cave in the world: 20-foot clear gypsum chandeliers, flowing underground rivers, lakes you reach by dropping a rope through a ceiling hole, vampire bats and blind fish.

  5. Tracks of a 20-pound bipedal lizard: Crystal claims that on a recent expedition she found tracks of a roughly 20-pound bipedal lizard in a passage where no human had been, and posted photos of the prints to her website.