O'Leary argues that cold fusion technology could render radioactive waste harmless and that practical free energy devices are five to ten years away, held back primarily by oil industry resistance and lack of investment. He estimates that just one hundred million dollars would be enough to bring the concept to commercial viability. He also addresses the anomalous features at Cydonia on Mars, calling NASA's dismissal of them as mere tricks of shadow "absurd."
Callers ask about remote viewing, which O'Leary confirms experiencing firsthand at Princeton, and about astronauts who have witnessed UFOs. He names Gordon Cooper and Ed Mitchell as fellow space program veterans who have reported sightings. Art and O'Leary also discuss global warming, the finite oil supply, and the urgent need for alternative energy sources.
Key Moments
Cold fusion can render Hanford's radioactive waste harmless, O'Leary claims: Asked about the Good Morning America cold-fusion demo, O'Leary says the underlying technology can scale: 'all the radioactive waste in Hanford, Washington, could be rendered inactive through this technology.' He blames vested oil-company interests for the lack of mass-media or government promotion, and frames free energy as a Wright-brothers moment that hasn't yet earned public credibility.
O'Leary on his Mars selection and the unphotographed Cydonia anomalies: O'Leary confirms he was appointed to go to Mars at age 27 (he is 57 at recording) during Apollo, and says he would still go. He pivots to the Cydonia anomalies - including the 'face' - and says Mars Global Surveyor, now in its highly elongated orbit, has not yet imaged them at higher resolution. He calls it a 'political situation' and says he and Professor Stan McDaniel are pressuring NASA for the imagery.
Astronauts who say they have seen UFOs: Gordon Cooper and Ed Mitchell: A caller asks whether O'Leary or any astronauts have seen UFOs. O'Leary says he himself never did, but names Gordon Cooper and Ed Mitchell as astronauts who have seen UFOs - though, he clarifies, not during their spaceflights. He calls it one of the great vexing questions of the time and says it has not been adequately addressed.