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A Cultural History of Art Bell

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October 21, 2013: Turkish UFOs & Alien Implants - Dr. Roger Leir

Oct 21, 2013
2h 57m
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Art Bell welcomes Dr. Roger Leir, a podiatric surgeon who has performed 16 surgeries to remove suspected alien implants from abductees. Leir discusses his return after a severe bout with shingles and shares remarkable findings from years of laboratory analysis on the recovered objects, including the discovery of carbon nanotubes, both single-walled and double-walled, embedded within metallic structures.

Leir presents extraordinary video footage from Kumburgaz, Turkey, captured over three consecutive years showing a craft hovering over the sea with apparent occupants visible through ports on the vessel. The footage was analyzed by Istanbul University and a Chilean researcher using frame-splitting technology. A physicist on Leir's team theorizes the recurring appearances at the same time and location may represent a time loop.

The conversation turns to what the implants actually do. Leir explains that radio frequency emissions have been detected from the objects in the FM band, and that nuclear physicists on his board have traced isotopic signatures in the implants to a civilization one-third across the Milky Way, estimated to be 80 to 100 million years older than humanity. He believes the devices transmit genetic monitoring data rather than serving as tracking or control mechanisms.

Key Moments

  1. The Kumburgaz Turkey UFO footage: Leir walks Art through video shot near Kumburgaz, Turkey, showing a craft with three ports and visible occupants - analyzed by the University of Istanbul and frame-split by Mario Valdez in Chile.

  2. Time loop hypothesis: Leir reports that the same craft appeared at the same location three years running, at the same time of night, prompting one of his physicists to suggest they were observing a time loop, not a recurring visit.

  3. Carbon nanotubes inside a 42-year-old implant: Leir reports that single- and double-walled carbon nanotubes - which the academic community argued couldn't even exist nine years earlier - have been found in implants, including one that had been in a body for 42 years.

  4. Art's cow analogy and the friendly question: Art pushes back on Leir's view that the visitors must be friendly with an extended analogy: a cow lives a peaceful life right up until it becomes hamburger, and a calf may not even live that long.

  5. DNA already has an electronic signature: Leir relays that a Brazilian abductee was told her implant was not a tracking device - and that geneticists now believe all DNA emits its own electronic signature, meaning the visitors don't need devices to track us.