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Art Bell welcomes retired NYPD sergeant Ralph Sarchie, who served in the South Bronx and has spent decades investigating cases of demonic possession. Sarchie, a close friend of the late Father Malachi Martin, describes the three stages of diabolical activity: infestation, oppression, and possession. He explains that an invitation, whether through occult practices, Ouija boards, or even the actions of a family member, is required for a demon to enter the physical world.
The conversation explores the signs of genuine possession, including speaking in unknown languages, superhuman strength, and knowledge the afflicted person could not possess. Sarchie recounts assisting in the exorcism of an eight-year-old girl who spoke fluent Latin with no prior training. He discusses how the decline of spirituality in modern society creates a vacuum that dark forces increasingly fill, drawing parallels between rising violence and a growing distance from faith.
Art presses Sarchie on whether demonic possession could serve as a legal defense, the difference between mental illness and genuine diabolical activity, and whether some individuals actually seek possession. Sarchie shares his own close call when he was shot off duty and describes the disciplined spiritual life he maintains to protect himself and those he helps.
The conversation explores the signs of genuine possession, including speaking in unknown languages, superhuman strength, and knowledge the afflicted person could not possess. Sarchie recounts assisting in the exorcism of an eight-year-old girl who spoke fluent Latin with no prior training. He discusses how the decline of spirituality in modern society creates a vacuum that dark forces increasingly fill, drawing parallels between rising violence and a growing distance from faith.
Art presses Sarchie on whether demonic possession could serve as a legal defense, the difference between mental illness and genuine diabolical activity, and whether some individuals actually seek possession. Sarchie shares his own close call when he was shot off duty and describes the disciplined spiritual life he maintains to protect himself and those he helps.
Key Moments
Infestation and oppression rising: Sarchie says infestations and oppressions are increasing alongside occult activity.
Eight-year-old speaks Latin: Sarchie describes an exorcism where an eight-year-old girl spoke and answered questions in fluent Latin.
Invitation lets the demon in: Sarchie says some form of invitation is required for a demon to enter and manipulate the physical environment.
Ouija boards and intent: Sarchie says Ouija boards are only cardboard, but the user's intent to speak with spirits creates the danger.