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Episode 1203 · Nov 20, 2005 · 2h 29m

November 20, 2005: Ufology Update - Stanton Friedman

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    Cosmic Watergatethe biggest story of the millennium: Friedman lays out his core thesis as Art asks how he opens a lecture to skeptics: some UFOs are alien spacecraft, the government is running a 'cosmic Watergate,' there are no good arguments against either conclusion, and this is the biggest story of the millennium.

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    Klass paid Friedman $1,000 to settle the MJ-12 typeface betFriedman recounts how arch-debunker Phil Klass bet him $100 per genuine government document matching the Cutler-Twining memo's typeface, capped at ten. Friedman sent fourteen - Klass paid the $1,000, then threatened to sue when Friedman published the cancelled check.

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    Racing the undertaker for Roswell witnessesAt 71, Friedman tells Art he's still hunting living Roswell witnesses and quotes Max Planck: new ideas win not because opponents are convinced but because they die. He's looking for a Woodward-Bernstein reporter to break the story before he's gone.

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    Harvard's Susan Clancybias baked into the abduction study: Friedman reads Clancy's own words from her new book - she chose abductees specifically because she 'could be fairly certain' the events never occurred - and argues her taxpayer-funded research was rigged from the premise that aliens don't exist.

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    They're here to quarantine usAsked what they want, Friedman cites the Hill star map pointing to Zeta Reticuli - 39 light-years away, a billion years older than our sun - and gives his bottom-line theory: aliens are quarantining a primitive, war-prone Earth before it can take its tribal warfare into the galaxy.

Art Bell welcomes nuclear physicist and UFO researcher Stanton Friedman to discuss the current state of ufology, including his recent trip to a World UFO Conference in Dalian, China. Friedman describes an open atmosphere among Chinese scientists and notes that the Chinese government appears to encourage public discussion of UFOs, possibly to pressure the United States toward greater transparency.

Friedman outlines evidence from Project Blue Book Special Report Number 14, which analyzed 3,201 sightings and found that 21.5 percent were truly unexplained. He details how the Air Force publicly claimed only 3 percent were unknown, and explains how statistical analysis showed less than a 1 percent probability that unknowns were simply misidentified known objects. He also discusses the feasibility of nuclear-powered aircraft, a technology he worked on as a young physicist.

The conversation turns to the MJ-12 documents, the legacy of debunker Philip Klass, and a newly discovered letter in which Klass attempted to undermine Friedman with Canadian government officials before his move to Canada. Friedman challenges the SETI community for refusing to examine UFO evidence while claiming none exists, and argues that advanced civilizations would have moved far beyond radio communication.

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