Walker recounts how his mother possessed extraordinary intelligence and charisma, could fool lie detector tests, and maintained multiple aliases simultaneously in a room full of people who each knew her by a different name. He traces his own break from the criminal lifestyle at age twelve after being caught stealing a surfboard, while his half-brother Kenny fell deeper under their mother's influence. The siblings took opposite paths, with Kent becoming a vacuum cleaner salesman and Kenny joining Sante in the long con.
The conversation covers the final scheme to steal a Manhattan millionairess's $10 million townhouse, resulting in murder convictions without a body or physical evidence. Walker discusses his brother's 125-year sentence and his personal fight against the death penalty in the pending California case.
Key Moments
Sante Kimes convicted of slavery in Las Vegas: Walker explains his mother is the only person he knows of in the last century convicted on slavery charges in Las Vegas, having lured illegal aliens from Mexico, Central America and Peru into involuntary servitude as unpaid maids. She served four years federal time.
Sante may have forged her own birth certificate: Walker says he obtained a certified copy of his mother's Oklahoma birth certificate and the handwriting on it is shockingly similar to her own letters from the 1970s, suggesting she fabricated her own origin to fit her wealthy stepfather's Oklahoma background.
Pulled out of the Army by his mother's lies: Walker, an Army helicopter pilot, recounts how his mother had him yanked off a Canadian National Guard exercise on the false pretext that his father had had a heart attack, so he could help her fight the maids slavery case.
House explosion - serial arson for insurance: Walker recalls being a young boy sent to fetch a manila folder upstairs; as he stepped out the front door, the house exploded and threw him into the yard. He describes a long pattern of arsons used to collect insurance and to delay civil court cases by claiming records had burned.
Kenny's reported confession on disposing the Silverman body: Walker says that according to authorities' November news releases, his half-brother Kenny confessed he had taken Irene Silverman's body to New Jersey and dumped it - though when Walker visited him in January, Kenny denied saying anything to the press or authorities.