Kevin discusses the breakdown of emotional intelligence in modern society, tracing the problem to Descartes' philosophy of pure rationalism that stripped away the capacity for empathy. He connects this to Jung's monitoring of collective dreams before World War II and argues that humanity faces a choice between ecological collapse and a new era of collective awareness. The conversation touches on the hundredth monkey effect, the harmonic convergence's role in the fall of the Berlin Wall, and whether focused group consciousness can alter weather patterns and global events.
Art shares his own caution about conducting mass consciousness experiments on the air, expressing genuine fear about unintended consequences. Kevin offers perspective on crop circles, the nature of good and evil, reincarnation, and the psychic bonds that connect all living beings to the planet itself.
Key Moments
Jung's collective dreams and humanity's event horizon: Ryerson recounts that Carl Jung, monitoring collective dreams in the 1920s and 30s, foresaw World War II in shared cannibalistic imagery, and after the war saw an even larger ecological/technological crisis ahead, comparing today to entering a black hole's event horizon.
Descartes' error and the loss of empathy: Ryerson argues school shootings and copycat killings stem from Descartes' philosophical legacy: 'I think therefore I am' stripped emotional intelligence and empathy from Western thought, leaving a generation deconditioned from feeling each other's reality.
Storm anchored over the Great Pyramid: Ryerson describes a 1990s trip with about twenty artists who, after meditating inside the Great Pyramid during a drought, emerged to find one of the largest unseasonal storms in the region hovering directly over Cairo, hub centered on the pyramid; a release meditation the next day reportedly dissipated it.
Oklahoma F5 broke the theoretical limit: Ryerson and Bell discuss how the Oklahoma City tornado was officially clocked at 318 mph, with unofficial reports of 324 mph, exceeding the speed atmospheric science considers physically possible (F6, 319+).
Humanity's addiction to miracles: Ryerson reframes the relationship to God: it is time to stop being children of God and become 'God's adults,' breaking what he calls humanity's addiction to miracles and crisis-based identity.