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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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May 15, 2005: Antigravity and Zero Point Energy - Nick Cook | New Phoenix Lights - Jeff Willes

May 15, 2005
2h 55m
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Art Bell opens the program with Jeff Willes, who captured striking new video footage of mysterious lights over Phoenix on May 12, 2005. Willes, who filmed the original 1997 Phoenix Lights and runs UFOs Over Phoenix, describes three lights appearing in a triangular formation before one rapidly skips across the sky at impossible speed. Luke Air Force Base denied any knowledge of the objects when contacted.

The program then features Nick Cook, aviation editor for Jane's Defence Weekly and author of "The Hunt for Zero Point." Cook discusses the Casimir effect as experimental evidence for zero-point energy and examines Dr. Eugene Podkletnov's superconducting disk experiments, which measured a three to five percent weight reduction in objects suspended above rotating superconductors. He reveals that Chinese-American scientist Dr. Ning Li received U.S. Army funding to develop force field beam technology from similar experiments before mysteriously disappearing from public life.

Cook and Art explore the strange voltage constantly present on Art's massive antenna array in the desert, measuring over 300 volts on clear, calm days with no apparent source. Cook notes that the white world of aerospace is showing increased interest in these exotic technologies, while suggesting the black world of classified programs may be far more advanced than publicly acknowledged.

Key Moments

  1. May 12, 2005 Phoenix lights captured on video: Jeff Willes describes the May 12 sighting in Cave Creek: three lights appeared, one skipped ahead of the other two, vanished, then reappeared behind a cloud, all caught on Sony Handycam.

  2. Luke Air Force Base says 'no idea': Willes calls Luke AFB the morning after his sighting; after a 10-minute hold, the public affairs lieutenant says they have no idea what he saw and shows no interest in seeing the video.

  3. How little we actually know about physics: Nick Cook says that researching The Hunt for Zero Point shattered the schoolbook idea that physics is largely solved, even at fundamental levels like gravity.

  4. Army Redstone Arsenal funding force-field research: Cook reports that the U.S. Army Redstone Arsenal paid Dr. Ming Li half a million dollars to develop superconducting rotating disks aimed at producing a deflecting force-field beam, the same effect Eugene Podkletnov claimed.

  5. Nazi SS disc-shaped craft research validated: Cook says that, expecting nothing, his digging found genuine top-secret SS-funded wartime research into power plants for disc-shaped craft, with a contact currently excavating former Nazi sites in the Czech Republic.