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March 6, 1997: Deadly Pathogens & Solar Rays - Ed Dames

Mar 6, 1997
2h 43m
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Major Ed Dames of PsyTech returns with remote viewing results on two fronts: the disappearance of Iron Butterfly bassist Philip Taylor Kramer, and a chilling prediction about a plant pathogen heading toward Earth. Joined first by Kramer's sister Kathy, Dames delivers the grim conclusion that her brother was murdered, shot in his own vehicle by people he knew, with his body transported to a burial site near a small river in Montana.

After the Kramer segment, Dames expands on his forecast of ecological collapse. He describes a cylindrical object that has detached from Comet Hale-Bopp and is heading toward Earth, carrying a pathogen that will begin killing plant life starting in Africa by summer 1998. He predicts cascading food shortages, economic collapse, and widespread disease. As a survival measure, his team has identified chlorella, a green algae, as the food source that future survivors will depend on. He also addresses James Randi's million-dollar challenge, accepting it and proposing the program as a forum for terms.

This episode is classic Ed Dames, blending actionable remote viewing casework with sweeping apocalyptic predictions. Art presses him on timelines, mechanisms, and credibility, giving listeners a thorough examination of both the promise and the controversy surrounding technical remote viewing.

Key Moments

  1. Dames' fax: Kramer is dead, buried in Montana: Bell reads Dames' verbatim fax on the air: Philip Taylor Kramer is dead, foul play was involved, and PsiTech has a site description of the 'badly decomposed body in the state of Montana.' The remote-viewing conclusion is delivered before Kathy Kramer or the audience hears the rationale.

  2. Murdered in his own van, transported to Montana: On-air with the sister, Dames lays out the reconstruction: Kramer was shot inside his own vehicle by two or three other people who were already in the van - people he knew, not strangers - within the environs of Los Angeles, and then his body was transported to Montana in his own van.

  3. Plant pathogen detached from Hale-Bopp, summer '98: Dames lays out the prediction in full: a 'cylindrical' object embedded in Hale-Bopp has already detached and is heading for Earth. It will burn up in atmosphere over Africa but not totally - delivering a plant pathogen that begins killing all green things, starting in Africa and spreading rapidly. He puts the beginning of the global economic collapse in summer 1998.

  4. Microbial doom: Ebola, TB, airborne spores: Dames extends the pathogen claim into a full microbial collapse: with starvation suppressing immune systems, Ebola in Africa and tuberculosis in cooler climates will 'spread like wildfire' alongside the plant pathogen, which produces something like an airborne spore. Seeds survive only if protected from the air.