Targ recounts the pivotal moment when Pat Price, given only geographic coordinates, accurately described a secret Soviet weapons facility at Semi-Palatinsk, including a gantry crane and a 60-foot steel sphere later confirmed by satellite photography. The results were so precise that the program was defended before the House Committee on Intelligence Oversight, and funding continued for over two decades.
The conversation also covers precognition and forecasting silver futures, Douglas Dean's research showing corporate executives with strong ESP outperform their peers, and evidence for survival after death drawn from the cross-correspondence experiments. Targ discusses his daughter Elizabeth's passing and apparent posthumous communications, and explains how quieting the mind allows anyone to develop remote viewing abilities.
Key Moments
How the CIA program really began: Targ recounts how he and Hal Puthoff, leveraging credibility as laser scientists, walked into John McMahon's CIA office and demonstrated remote viewing using Ingo Swann and Pat Price.
Pat Price remote views Semipalatinsk: Given only geographic coordinates, Pat Price psychically described a giant gantry crane and a 60-foot steel sphere being welded from orange-peel slices at a secret Soviet site, later confirmed by satellite as a particle beam weapon facility.
Congress suspects a security leak: The Price drawings were so accurate that the House Intelligence Oversight Committee called Targ and Puthoff in, suspecting a leak; the CIA testified there was no leak and told them to press on.
$120,000 from silver futures: Targ describes how SRI viewers forecast nine consecutive weeks of silver-market moves with an investor in the 1980s, earning about $120,000 split with the backer and landing on the front page of the Wall Street Journal.
Why remote viewers missed 9/11: Asked why no viewer foresaw 9/11, Targ says the program was disbanded in 1995 because the CIA decided America had no enemies; he notes Dean Radin's random number generators showed a worldwide coherence spike two hours before the attacks.