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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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June 26, 1997: Wolves - Teresa Martino | Egyptian Pyramid - Richard C. Hoagland & Larry Hunter

Jun 26, 1997
3h 20m
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Art Bell welcomes Teresa Martino, author of The Wolf, The Woman, The Wilderness, who describes her year-long journey of returning a captive-born wolf named Mackenzie to the wild. Martino explains that Mackenzie''s grandparents were wild wolves, giving her the predatory instincts and shyness necessary for reintroduction. She fed Mackenzie roadkill deer before gradually teaching her to hunt live prey in the northern wilderness, traveling together for weeks at a time and learning to move slowly through the brush like a wild animal.

Martino describes the emotional moment when Mackenzie successfully took her first deer and chose not to return to base camp, effectively deciding to rejoin the wild. She later confirmed Mackenzie had found a mate and produced cubs. Art shares his own parallel experience bonding with a feral cat named Comet, and both discuss the possibility of telepathic communication between humans and animals.

Later, Richard C. Hoagland and Larry Hunter join to announce explosive findings from Egypt regarding access and control at the Giza plateau. Hoagland reveals that evidence was delivered to Egyptian officials and a Cairo newspaper editor, and announces a major presentation planned for Phoenix connecting Mars, Egypt, and hyperdimensional physics.

Key Moments

  1. Mackenzie: a second-generation-from-wild wolf returned to the wilderness: Martino describes the wolf at the heart of her release project - Mackenzie, a second-generation removed from wild, very predatory and shy - and the year she spent walking and hunting with her in the wilderness, bartering rent so she could focus full-time on the work.

  2. Mackenzie's first deer kill - and her decision to stay wild: After months of small game (rabbits, mice, roadkill deer), Mackenzie finally chases and successfully takes a buck. Something changes; back at base camp she refuses to return - Martino realizes the wolf has chosen wildness, and over the next two years she returns to find Mackenzie has mated and had cubs.

  3. Hunter returns from Egypt with samples from inside the Great Pyramid: Hoagland announces what Larry Hunter has just brought back: physical samples from inside the Great Pyramid plus a roughly 80-minute Arabic-language interview with a witness - evidence Hoagland frames as documenting illegal excavation underway inside Giza.

  4. Hunter's Magellan-GPS 'astro-archaeology' of Orion across the Egyptian desert: Hunter describes 18 years of fieldwork using Magellan GPS to fix every surviving pyramidal mound on the Egyptian plain by right ascension and declination - extending Bauval's three-belt-stars theory to the rest of Orion and, he claims, correcting Bauval's misidentification of Bellatrix vs Betelgeuse.