The discussion moves from ham radio's uncertain future and the rise of the Internet to Green's passionate advocacy for cold fusion research, colloidal silver, and a bioelectric blood purification device he claims has produced hundreds of positive anecdotal reports. Green also shares his controversial theories on education reform, entrepreneurship, and a firsthand account connecting Amelia Earhart to a secret spy mission over Japanese naval installations at Truk Island, sourced from her own airplane mechanic.
Art and Wayne find common ground as fellow hams mourning the hobby's fading relevance while celebrating its legacy of producing generations of engineers and scientists. Green's irrepressible curiosity and willingness to challenge scientific orthodoxy make this a spirited exploration of ideas most would consider far ahead of their time.
Key Moments
Submarine bow planes stuck at 470 feet: Wayne Green recounts a near-disaster on his WWII submarine: after firing six dud electric torpedoes at tankers, a subchaser pursued them; their bow planes jammed on full dive in a 300-foot-rated boat. Green overheard the call running through the control room, ordered torpedo crew to pry them loose with a bar; they bottomed at 470 feet before recovering.
1964 incentive licensing wiped out 90% of school radio clubs: Green details the ARRL's 1964–65 'incentive licensing' decision: in two years it wiped out roughly 90% of school radio clubs, 85% of ham radio stores, and 95% of manufacturers, halting an 11%/year growth where 80% of newcomers were teenagers and 80% went on to high-tech careers.
Bob Beck bioelectrifier - current at the wrist: Green explains the bioelectrifier device: derived from Albert Einstein College of Medicine patent (Crowley & Wyman) for treating blood with microcurrent ex vivo, then adapted by physicist Bob Beck to deliver current in vivo through electrodes over the radial arteries at the wrist, polarity reversed about four times per second, run roughly an hour a day.
Patterson cold fusion - 14 patents, 1000:1 heat: Green names Jim Patterson of Sarasota, Florida as the leading U.S. cold fusion developer: six patents issued, eight more accepted (14 total), with research cells using palladium- and nickel-coated plastic microspheres in plain water demonstrating 1 watt input producing 1,000 watts of sustained heat, sold to Bechtel and others.