Targ recounts the program's most dramatic successes, including Pat Price's remote viewing of a Soviet weapons laboratory at Semipalatinsk that proved so accurate the CIA initially suspected Targ of espionage. He explains how viewer Joe McMoneagle located a downed Soviet bomber in Africa, and how a team pinpointed a kidnapped American general in Italy by describing the building where he was held. Targ emphasizes that remote viewing is a learnable skill available to most people, not a gift reserved for psychic prodigies.
The discussion turns to the physics behind remote viewing. Targ draws on quantum entanglement and nonlocality, arguing that consciousness operates outside the constraints of space and time. He describes Buddhist and Hindu philosophical traditions that anticipated these findings by millennia, and shares his personal journey from laser physicist to spiritual explorer. Art and Targ also discuss the ethics of psychic spying and why the program was officially shut down despite its documented intelligence value.
Key Moments
Where Were the Remote Viewers on 9/11?: Art presses Targ on why no remote viewer caught a whiff of 9/11 in the days, weeks, or months beforehand. Targ explains the SRI program was shut down in 1995 because the government concluded it had no enemies and didn't need a psychic surveillance group.
Paul Smith Predicts the USS Stark Hit: Targ recounts how Paul Smith, in training at Fort Meade, was asked what the next big intelligence event would be and described a ship struck by an airborne missile, oil spilled, fires. Two days later the USS Stark was hit by an Exocet missile.
Pat Price and the Soviet Steel Sphere: Targ describes the famous SRI session where Pat Price viewed a Soviet R&D lab in Siberia, saw a giant crane and a 60-foot steel sphere being welded together from orange-peel shapes. Two years later that exact sphere was rolled out as part of a particle-beam weapon.
Pat Price Fingers the Patty Hearst Kidnapper: Targ tells, for the first time on air, how Berkeley police brought the Patty Hearst case to SRI days after the kidnapping. Pat Price flipped through a mug book and put his finger on a single photo, identifying the suspect.
Nine Silver Forecasts, Nine Hits: Targ states the SRI team forecast silver prices for the commodities exchange nine times over nine weeks and were right every time, calling the result astronomically beyond chance.