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A Cultural History of Art Bell

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April 16, 2005: Marburg Outbreak & Codex Updates - Dr. Ronald Klatz

Apr 16, 2005
2h 54m
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Dr. Ronald Klatz joins Art Bell to discuss the Marburg outbreak, possible airborne transmission, H2N2 sample mailings, Codex health-freedom concerns, and stem-cell updates after a first-hour biodiesel interview with Joe Jobe. The opening conversation covers the economics of biodiesel fuel, its 80% reduction in carbon dioxide emissions compared to petroleum diesel, and its potential to reshape American energy and agriculture.

Dr. Klatz then discusses the alarming Marburg virus outbreak in Angola, where a new strain is killing at rates approaching 100%, far exceeding the historical 23-25% fatality rate. Art and Dr. Klatz examine the terrifying possibility that the virus has become airborne through respiratory droplets, the vulnerability of healthcare workers despite standard precautions, and the potential for terrorists to weaponize such a pathogen.

The discussion turns to the mysterious mailing of deadly H2N2 influenza samples to thousands of labs worldwide, the unsettling disappearance of two shipments, and the broader pattern of suspicious deaths among microbiologists. Dr. Klatz also provides an update on stem cell breakthroughs showing promise in reversing spinal cord injuries, stroke damage, and cancer treatment in veterinary applications.

Key Moments

  1. Marburg now spread by airborne droplets: Klatz tells Art that the current Marburg strain isn't just spread by direct contact with body fluids but by droplets from a cough or a sneeze.

  2. How Marburg kills: bleeding from inside out: Klatz describes hemorrhagic fever destroying clotting factors so victims bleed through the eyes, rectum and skin as organs hemorrhage internally.

  3. Suspicions of bioengineering: Art and Klatz note this Marburg strain is dramatically more lethal and apparently more transmissible than past outbreaks, calling it suspicious and going in the wrong direction.

  4. Codex would reclassify foods as drugs: Klatz explains the European Codex Alimentarius effort would relabel foods with therapeutic effects as drugs, requiring prescriptions for things like high-potency vitamin C.