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Episode 1436 · Sep 21, 2015 · 2h 16m

September 21, 2015: NDEs - Dr. Jeffrey Long

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    Defining 'really dead' and NDEs under anesthesiaLong discusses the modern definition of death as absence of brain function and notes that NDEs occur under general anesthesia, when EEG measurements show only dissociated electrical activity that medically cannot produce conscious experience.

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    Art volunteers to flatline himselfArt tells Long that, with the right medical team, he would be willing to undergo a Flatliners-style experiment to learn what happens after death. Long calls it unethical and warns listeners against attempting it themselves.

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    Hidden-target experiments and verified resuscitation detailsLong addresses the famous hidden-clock/laptop target studies, explains why no NDEr looked at them (their consciousness focused on their own resuscitation), and notes patients have accurately described details down to the numbers on defibrillator units.

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    Vicki, blind from birth, sees during her NDELong recounts interviewing Vicki, blind since birth, who saw for the first time during an NDE after a car accident, recognizing herself only by correlating sight with the feel of her hair and a ring her father gave her, and describing 360-degree spherical vision.

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    Life review without judgmentLong describes the NDE life review where experiencers feel what others felt during every interaction, but stresses there is essentially never a sense of external judgment, damnation, or condemnation, only learning.

Art Bell welcomes Dr. Jeffrey Long, a radiation oncologist and founder of the Near-Death Experience Research Foundation, who has studied over 4,000 NDEs in the largest scientific investigation of the phenomenon ever conducted. Dr. Long explains that between 9 and 18 percent of people who come close to death report lucid, organized experiences when their brains should be incapable of conscious awareness.

The discussion covers consistent elements found across NDEs regardless of culture, religion, or geography: out-of-body experiences with verified observations of resuscitation efforts, passage through a tunnel toward an unearthly light, encounters with deceased loved ones, life reviews, and a boundary between life and death. Dr. Long presents evidence including blind-from-birth individuals who report detailed visual NDEs, experiences under general anesthesia unaffected by powerful medications, and people declared dead in morgues who later revive with vivid accounts.

Callers share remarkable stories, including a man from Toronto who nearly materialized in his aunt's living room in Hawaii while gravely ill, confirmed by his aunt witnessing twinkling lights on her floor. Dr. Long addresses skeptical arguments about brain chemistry and electrical stimulation, finding none adequate, and shares data suggesting 27 percent of NDErs encountered evidence of prior existence.

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