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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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September 21, 2003: Using the Occult - Dr. Evelyn Paglini

Sep 21, 2003
2h 50m
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Art Bell opens with Whitley Strieber for a discussion on the surge in UFO activity coinciding with Mars at its closest approach to Earth in recorded history. Strieber describes a detailed abduction case from British Columbia involving two women who encountered five sets of glowing green eyes belonging to gray beings on a roadside, followed by 35 minutes of missing time and physical injuries including a radiation-like burn. He notes that multiple independent witnesses reported UFOs in the same region that night.

In the second half, Art welcomes Dr. Evelyn Paglini, a self-described Tuscany witch from a centuries-old lineage of occult practitioners. She explains that magic is a natural science rooted in the manipulation of energy and vibration, and that both protective and offensive applications are real and effective regardless of whether the target believes in them. Paglini describes using imitative magic with effigy candles and essential oils to reverse a con artist's actions, resulting in his arrest months later.

Paglini walks listeners through a love attraction ritual involving consecrated image candles, essential oils, and focused visualization, while warning that forcing someone against their will carries serious karmic consequences. She reveals that magic is actively used in Hollywood and corporate boardrooms, and claims that powerful curses have been placed on certain celebrities, affecting their relationships and personal lives.

Key Moments

  1. 'I am a spiritual warrior. Where I find them, I attack.': Paglini distinguishes herself from white-only practitioners and details how she can attack a target financially, in their relationships, health, emotions, nervous system, and mind.

  2. Ritual against a con artist who allegedly tried to help Kobe Bryant: Paglini describes performing a ritual four and a half months earlier to turn a con artist's tendencies against him; she names him as a man tied to Kobe Bryant's case who was incarcerated days before the show aired.

  3. Mechanics of the binding ritual: effigy, black reverse-image candle, astral plane: Paglini walks Art through the mechanics: an effigy for sympathetic linkage, a black reverse-image candle to redirect the target's actions, and a 'spotlight' to expose them, manifested first in the astral plane then the physical.

  4. Drawing a lover to you: visualize them on a plane, train, or boat: Paglini gives Art's audience a working love-magic visualization: focus like a laser beam and picture the desired person traveling toward you by any means, needing you, unable to live without you.