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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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September 2, 1999: Gulf War Syndrome & Waco Investigation - Joyce Riley

Sep 2, 1999
1h 52m
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Art Bell welcomes Joyce Riley, registered nurse and spokesperson for the American Gulf War Veterans Association, for an urgent broadcast covering two major investigations. Riley details the plight of Gulf War veterans suffering from undisclosed biological experiments, including a disturbing new development involving parasitic organisms emerging from the skin of affected soldiers. She describes four documented cases of what the VA internally labels "Biological Agent A" while medical records are being systematically sanitized from VA facilities.

The conversation turns to Waco as Riley reveals testimony from a Gulf War veteran stationed at Fort Hood who claims 20 Apache attack helicopters from the F-227 Aviation Squadron were fully armed with Hellfire missiles, Sidewinder missiles, and 20-millimeter cannons for deployment at Mount Carmel. The source states the helicopters returned with approximately half their ordnance expended. Riley confirms Delta Force presence and notes this information has been shared with attorney Dick DeGuerrin and the Texas Rangers.

Art connects these stories to a broader pattern of government accountability failures, from Agent Orange cover-ups affecting his late friend John Pyre to Title 50 U.S. Code Section 1520-A, which Riley says expanded rather than restricted the government's authority to conduct experiments on American citizens.

Key Moments

  1. Senate report: experiments on hundreds of thousands: Riley cites Senate Report 103-97, whose opening line states that during the prior 50 years hundreds of thousands of U.S. military personnel were used in experiments without their consent, including LSD and BZ administered to Vietnam troops in combat.

  2. Title 50 Section 1520-A loophole: Riley reveals that the 1997 repeal of Title 50, Section 1520 was effectively replaced by 1520-A, which she argues makes it even easier for the Department of Defense and its contractors to conduct experiments on the public.

  3. Worms emerging from Gulf War vets' skin: Riley describes a parasite she calls Biological Agent A: sores form on Gulf War veterans' skin, a worm bites its way out, lives about an hour and dies; one veteran told her he can feel them crawling at night and had one emerge from his tongue.

  4. Millennium script named the real pathogen: Art reveals that an early script for his Millennium TV episode named the Gulf War veteran's illness mycoplasma incognitus - the same agent later patented by Dr. Shyh-Ching Lo and funded by the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology - and that the name was quietly changed before shooting.

  5. Apaches armed with Hellfires went into Waco: Riley relays a Fort Hood Gulf War veteran's account that the F-227 Aviation Apache squadron armed roughly 20 Apache helicopters with Hellfires, 122mm rockets, Sidewinders and a 20mm belly cannon, rotating two over Mount Carmel at all times alongside Black Hawks and Delta Force operators.