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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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September 18, 1997: Phoenix Lights, Hale Bopp - Ed Dames

Sep 18, 1997
1h 53m
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Art Bell sits down with Major Ed Dames of PsyTech for a packed evening covering the Phoenix Lights, Comet Hale-Bopp, remote viewing, and dire predictions for the near future. Dames presents his controversial conclusion that the March 1997 Phoenix Lights were a laser-generated hoax orchestrated by a television network seeking ratings, claiming his remote viewers found no physical structure in the sky above the city.

The conversation takes a darker turn as Dames outlines what his technical remote viewing team has identified as coming threats. He describes a cylinder that separated from Hale-Bopp carrying a plant pathogen expected to impact equatorial Africa, killing green plant life for roughly four years. He also predicts the next use of a nuclear weapon will occur on the Korean Peninsula, delivered by missile from the North against the South, followed by a reactor-based incident in northern Spain.

Dames recommends chlorella and earthworms as survival food sources for the difficult years ahead and discusses global economic collapse, severe weather tied to El Nino, and the spiritual dimensions he has encountered through years of remote viewing research into the collective unconscious.

Key Moments

  1. Dames: Phoenix Lights were five UV lasers, not aircraft: Dames says his remote-viewing team found no physical structure around the Phoenix Lights - instead they landed on a fixed structure with five lasers projecting from south to north over the city, requiring less than two watts per laser.

  2. Dames alleges TV-network/laser-company conspiracy: Pressed on motive, Dames tells Art a 'certain television network' was 'Johnny on the spot' and that ratings were the driver - agreeing it was fair to call it a conspiracy between a broadcast network and a company capable of producing the laser show.

  3. Hale-Bopp 'plant pathogen' to impact Africa Dec-Feb: Dames updates his claim that a cylinder separated from Hale-Bopp around April, is moving 20,000 mph toward Earth, and will enter the atmosphere between December 1997 and February 1998 - most likely impacting around Burundi or Lake Victoria, releasing spores that will kill green things.