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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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October 3, 2002: Remote Viewing - Ed Dames

Oct 3, 2002
2h 46m
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Art Bell welcomes Major Ed Dames, retired U.S. Army intelligence officer and original member of the military's remote viewing program, for his seventh year as a guest. Dames announces his cameo role in the upcoming feature film Suspect Zero alongside Sir Ben Kingsley and discusses taking his remote viewing workshops on the road to cities across the western United States.

Dames presents a striking theory about UFOs, claiming they are solid but temporary projections created by an automated system of intelligent machines located beneath the surface of Mars. He explains that these machines gather atmospheric materials like nitrogen and oxygen to construct physical objects at a distance, comparing the phenomenon to the projection technology in the film Forbidden Planet. He extends this explanation to crop circles, Bigfoot sightings, and other anomalies, describing them all as products of the same projection system.

The conversation also covers shadow people, which Dames describes as literal shadows cast by ghosts that bend light between a source and a surface. Art plays a 1952 radio drama called "The Shadow People" to demonstrate the phenomenon predates his program. Dames addresses foreign terrorist cells still operating on U.S. soil, reports his team trained a student to win a major lottery, and shares remote viewing insights about an ancient Martian civilization.

Key Moments

  1. Smallpox eradicated 'except in biological warfare laboratories': Discussing immune-suppressed deaths, Dames notes smallpox is eradicated globally except in bioweapons labs where 'it's just a great weapon,' framing the disease as a deliberately preserved offensive tool.

  2. Gaia is cleansing herself - humans as the disease: Dames argues that engineered pathogens like modified Ebola or smallpox keep traits of the original species, and that the Gaia hypothesis is operating: Earth is consciously trying to cleanse itself of humans poisoning seas, killing fish, and turning oceans into a cesspool.

  3. Crop blight is 'the beginning of the end': Dames names the single red flag listeners should watch for: when food crops begin to be infected with blight. That marks the end of the cattle and dairy industries, mass starvation, and the moment terrorist attacks fade because everyone faces a common enemy.

  4. A third of humanity dies: Asked the global death toll, Dames says he agrees with the biblical prophets - a third of the people, a third of the fishes in the seas, a third of the plants on land. Art frames it as 'culling the population.'

  5. Shake and Bake - solar flare and Nibiru before disease: Dames sketches the sequence: a minor solar flare will heat the planet ('shake and bake'), Nibiru will pass close enough to tilt Earth on its axis, and then disease has 'a field day.' He cites a sunken city off Cuba as evidence Nibiru already tilted the Earth once before.