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A Cultural History of Art Bell

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October 25, 2001: Parapsychologist - Dr. Evelyn Paglini

Oct 25, 2001
2h 30m
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Art Bell welcomes Dr. Evelyn Paglini, a self-described practitioner of natural and ceremonial magic, for a discussion on using the occult as both a spiritual defense and a tool against terrorism in the wake of 9/11. Paglini describes specific rituals involving white candles, shield of protection oil, and image candles that listeners can use to create what she calls an impenetrable spiritual dome around themselves, their loved ones, and the nation.

She introduces the "jumbo double action reverse candle," a ceremonial magic tool she says requires at least an hour of focused visualization to redirect hostile energy back toward its source. Art presses her on the nature of the power behind these practices, and Paglini maintains it originates from a neutral divine source that practitioners must direct responsibly. She recounts how a worldwide call to arms among occult practitioners helped combat Nazi Germany during World War II and claims a similar mobilization is now underway.

The conversation also touches on the mass consciousness experiments Art has conducted, with Paglini arguing that focused collective intention combined with ritual practice amplifies results dramatically. She warns that the forces behind the current terrorism have their own practitioners of ceremonial and ritualistic magic operating behind the scenes.

Key Moments

  1. Black and white sides of the craft: Paglini pushes back on Wiccans who insist there is no dark side to witchcraft, arguing knowledge is a double-edged sword and the practitioner alone determines whether the craft is used for black or white purposes.

  2. Bind down the action not wanted: Paglini warns that focused will is a real tool that bends forces and vibrations, but warns of the Twilight Zone catch: spells must always include the phrase "bind down the action not wanted" or the wisher gets a Rod Serling consequence.

  3. Mass consciousness as a weapon: Paglini insists that hundreds of millions of focused minds create energy that can be wielded for good or harm, and warns that the Taliban regime is deeply into ceremonial ritualistic magic.

  4. Bin Laden is a front: Paglini says her work has surfaced tentacles reaching far beyond bin Laden, naming him as a front for more sinister men whose hidden agenda goes back centuries and whose goal is to make America subservient.

  5. Shield of Protection over America: Paglini gives listeners a hands-on ritual: a seven-day candle dressed with Shield of Protection essential oil to put an impenetrable dome over the nation that admits only goodness and boomerangs evil back to the sender.