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A Cultural History of Art Bell

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October 22, 2006: Consciousness and Water - Stephan Schwartz

Oct 22, 2006
2h 38m
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Art Bell speaks with researcher Stephan Schwartz about the hidden properties of water and how human intention can alter its molecular structure. Broadcasting from Manila on his third consecutive weekend show, Art opens with world news, a story about a Russian girl named Natasha who can see inside human bodies, and open lines featuring ghost stories and debates over why ghosts wear clothes.

Schwartz, a former special assistant to the Chief of Naval Operations and a leading expert on remote viewing, describes an experiment in which healers held sealed vials of water during therapeutic sessions. Using infrared spectrophotometry, his team found that the hydrogen bonding in treated water changed in a consistent, predictable way compared to controls. He reveals that water from historically healing springs at Lourdes and Glastonbury showed the same molecular changes naturally, suggesting a link between consciousness and the physical properties of water.

The discussion expands into how these findings may explain the placebo effect and why water has been central to religious ceremony for thousands of years. Schwartz argues that all consciousness is interlinked and that healing may work not through energy transfer but through a shared non-local connection that stimulates the body's own immune response.

Key Moments

  1. Natasha, the Russian girl with X-ray vision: Art reads the case of Natasha Demkina, who diagnosed an ulcer in a doctor and identified all metal pins in a fully-clothed UK accident victim, all repeatedly tested.

  2. Humanity may split into two subspecies by 3000: Art cites LSE evolutionary theorist Oliver Curry predicting humans peak in 3000 then split into a tall, healthy upper class and squat, dim-witted goblin-like underclass.

  3. Non-local consciousness is a birthright: Stephan Schwartz says psychic perception is not anomalous but a learnable, universal capacity all living organisms possess, suppressed by intellectual training.

  4. CEOs who score above chance double profits: Schwartz cites Dean and Mihalasky's study at Newark Tech: CEOs who guessed number sequences above chance ran companies that doubled profits, while sign-missing CEOs lost money.

  5. Industrial age suppressed psychic ability: Schwartz argues humans began suppressing overt psi about 500 years ago with the rise of the technological state, treating it as antithetical to intellectual activity.