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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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November 24, 1998: Conversations with God - Neal Walsch | Cosmic Code - Zecharia Sitchin

Nov 24, 1998
3h 15m
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Art Bell speaks with Zecharia Sitchin about his latest book, The Cosmic Code, which examines ancient Sumerian texts describing the genetic engineering process used by the Anunnaki to create humanity. Sitchin explains how detailed study of these ancient accounts could provide shortcuts for modern geneticists seeking to cure hereditary diseases, arguing the tablets contain step-by-step records of how genes were added and subtracted during the creation of the first humans.

Sitchin discusses physical evidence supporting his theories, including massive stone platforms at Baalbek in Lebanon weighing over a thousand tons, colossal blocks beneath Jerusalem, and a Sumerian artifact depicting a one-man spacecraft now on display in Istanbul. He also recommends Catholic priest Father Charles Moore, who teaches using Sitchin's research, as a future guest.

In the second half, Art interviews Neale Walsch, whose Conversations with God trilogy occupies multiple spots on bestseller lists. Walsch recounts how a personal crisis led to an extended written dialogue he attributes to God, organized around three core truths: we are all one, there is enough, and there is nothing we have to do. The conversation examines how shifting from doing to being transformed his life and relationships.

Key Moments

  1. Why the Anunnaki needed Earth's gold: Sitchin explains his core thesis: the Anunnaki came to Earth roughly 450,000 years ago because they were losing their atmosphere and needed gold particles to form a protective shield around their planet Nibiru.

  2. Enki's solution: the Lulu Amelu primitive worker: Sitchin recounts the Sumerian text describing the mutiny of Anunnaki astronauts in the gold mines, and chief scientist Enki's proposal to create a Lulu Amelu - a primitive worker - by genetically marking an existing hominid.

  3. Walsch: there are no Ten Commandments, only Ten Commitments: Neal Donald Walsch reframes one of the most famous passages in scripture, saying God told him there is no such thing as the Ten Commandments - only the Ten Commitments God makes to seekers.

  4. Asking God about the human soul: A caller asks whether humans have a unique connection with their soul. Walsch answers that no, our connection is no more inherent than that of any sentient being in the universe - and many beings have far higher awareness than we do.