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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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May 29, 2004: Climate Change - Robert Felix

May 29, 2004
2h 52m
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Art Bell returns from the New York premiere of The Day After Tomorrow and welcomes author Robert Felix to discuss his book Not by Fire but by Ice. Felix argues that the current ocean warming is driven not by human activity but by massive underwater volcanic systems, including the recently discovered Gackel Ridge beneath the Arctic Ocean, where volcanic mountains three miles high are producing intense hydrothermal activity that scientists had never previously documented.

Felix presents evidence that glaciers are growing in Norway, Switzerland, New Zealand, Ecuador, and even on Mount Shasta in California, where several have doubled in size since 1950. He contends that warmer oceans increase evaporation, which falls as heavier precipitation in winter months, noting that 15 inches of rain falling as snow would bury every one-story building under 150 inches. The pattern mirrors conditions that preceded previous ice ages in the geological record.

The conversation turns to the Yellowstone supervolcano, where ground has risen 29 inches since 1923 and a bulge the size of seven football fields has formed at the bottom of its largest lake. Felix describes how a full eruption would blast lava 30 miles into the sky, kill everyone within a 600-mile radius, drop global temperatures by 20 degrees, and deposit seven feet of volcanic ash across Nebraska.

Key Moments

  1. Art at the Day After Tomorrow premiere: Art recounts walking the New York Museum of Natural History red carpet for the premiere of The Day After Tomorrow with manufactured snow falling, and seeing his book The Coming Global Superstorm credited at the end of the film.

  2. Felix: ice ages begin in 10 to 20 years: Robert Felix explains that GRIP ice cores from central Greenland and earlier CLIMAP deep-sea cores show every ice age in the last 250,000 years began abruptly - in less than 20 years, sometimes less than 10 - on a roughly 11,500-year cycle.

  3. Felix: oceans are warming because of underwater volcanoes: Felix breaks with mainstream climate consensus: he says atmospheric and land temperatures are declining, but the oceans are heating - and he argues the cause is underwater volcanic activity, not human emissions.

  4. Felix: man-made warming has become a religion: Asked why his ice-age data is ignored, Felix says any scientist who pushed it in the past 20 years would have lost funding, because belief in man-made global warming has, to him, become a religion.

  5. Felix: oceans drop 370 feet during an ice age: Felix explains that the last ice age locked up so much water that sea levels were 370 feet lower; the Bering land bridge stood exposed, and the U.S. East Coast was 100 miles further east than today.