March 3, 2007: UFO Incidents - Nick Pope & Whitley Strieber
The discussion turns to Iran, where over 30 UFO incidents have been reported since December 2006, including possible crashes and plasma-like objects near nuclear facilities. Strieber and Art consider whether Iranian leaders would interpret alien contact through a religious lens, and whether a dirty bomb targeting Tel Aviv poses a greater risk than a traditional strike.
Nick Pope joins to discuss his departure from the British Ministry of Defence UFO project and reveals that the ministry ran a classified remote viewing study in 2001. The study failed to recruit experienced viewers and relied on novices, producing inconclusive results. Pope notes that sensitive target applications were planned but never completed, with key portions of the declassified report still redacted.
Key Moments
O'Hare disc and the FAA's denial reflex: Strieber says Dan Aykroyd has video of the November 2006 O'Hare UFO and dissects how the FAA's 'weather phenomenon' line shut down media inquiry.
Soviet missile silo taken over by a UFO: Strieber relays George Knapp's reporting that a UFO put a Soviet ICBM site into launch sequence, after which the Russians dismantled the installation.
MoD ran a secret remote viewing study: Pope details the Ministry of Defence's 2001-2002 classified RV trial, the FOIA-released 'sensitive targets' line, and the blanked-out paragraph that follows.
Mother Teresa, hidden targets, and walk-outs: Pope describes the RV protocol (sealed envelopes, images of Mother Teresa and a glass of wine), psychologists who walked out, and his read that the real targets were Bin Laden and Iraqi WMD.
Rendlesham Forest: hieroglyphs and a colonel as witness: Pope walks through Britain's Roswell: Penniston's symbol sketch on the craft, Lt Col Holt going to debunk and becoming a witness, light beams over Hot Row, elevated Geiger readings.