Art shares his own close encounter with a silent triangular craft over the Nevada desert, comparing notes with Pope. Pope reveals that Britain formally asked the American government whether it operated such a craft. The Americans denied it, then asked the same question in return. The two discuss the Rendlesham Forest incident of 1980, where US Air Force personnel encountered a landed UFO, took radiation readings from the site, and recorded the investigation on tape.
Art plays the full 17-minute Rendlesham audio recording for his audience, featuring Lt. Colonel Charles Halt and his team documenting elevated radiation, tree damage, and ultimately observing pulsating lights in the sky. Pope addresses the flight safety implications of UFOs and the reluctance of military pilots to report sightings for fear of career consequences.
Key Moments
Manchester airliner near-miss: Pope describes a 1995 incident where a UFO crossed the front of a passenger jet on approach to Manchester Airport - the pilot's instinct to throw the stick aside could have crashed the plane.
Radar 'fireballs' at 20,000 mph: Pope recounts military radar operators routinely dismissing fast targets as 'fireballs' - their only justification being that they go very fast.
Flying Saucer Fred: Pope quotes an Air Force pilot explaining why he never reported a metallic craft sighting: he didn't want to be known as 'Flying Saucer Fred' in the officer's mess.
RAF Cosford and Shawbury overflight: Pope details the March 30-31, 1993 wave: a triangular craft flew over two RAF bases, swept the field with a narrow beam, made a low humming you could feel, then accelerated faster than a fast jet - exactly three years after the Belgian F-16 scramble.
Britain asks the U.S., U.S. asks back: Pope confirms the MoD formally asked the U.S. via embassies whether the giant triangle was theirs; the U.S. said no - and asked Britain the same question because of Hudson Valley sightings.