The conversation covers psychic self-defense in detail, including cleansing rituals using black salt, sea salt, sulfur, and herbs like sage and rosemary. Paglini explains how practitioners can set up protective shields and mirror spells to reverse negative energy back to its sender. She discusses the use of familiars, particularly cats, as spiritual guardians and watchers prized for their heightened sensitivity.
Art and Paglini examine the darker aspects of organized ritual magic, including secret societies that use ceremonial practices to manipulate and control populations. They also address President Bush's controversial stance against recognizing Wicca as a legitimate religion and debate the growing influence of evil forces in modern society, from school shootings to institutional corruption.
Key Moments
Stregheria older than Egypt: Paglini distinguishes herself from Wiccans, identifying as a Genesean Italian witch (Strega) from a Tuscany lineage she says predates Etruscan, Roman, Greek and Egyptian traditions.
Justified retaliation creed: Paglini contrasts the Wiccan 'harm none' creed with her own: if attacked, she feels justified retaliating with magical force, breaking with both Wiccan and Christian turn-the-other-cheek ethics.
Voodoo works on disbelievers: Paglini rejects the popular notion that disbelief protects you from magic, asserting that voodoo and curses can affect targets thousands of miles away who neither know nor believe in the practice.
Karmic price for unjustified harm: Asked if she could deliberately ruin an innocent person, Paglini says yes but warns of karmic payback either in this lifetime or across the soul's evolution, since 'soul and spirit are eternal.'
Secret societies and ritual mind control: Asked about school shootings and rising violence, Paglini blames secret societies, lodges and organizations performing ritualistic - and at times sacrificial - mind control on children and the populace through big government and big business.