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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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June 8, 2001: Underwater City Off Cuba & Shadow People - Ed Dames | UFO Video - Robert Kiviat

Jun 8, 2001
2h 47m
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Art Bell presents a striking anonymous UFO video from North Bay, Ontario, then speaks with Hollywood producer Robert Kiviat, who has secured exclusive rights to footage shot by a British housewife showing a structured craft with pulsing colors hovering for six and a half minutes. Kiviat explains the object matches UFOs captured by NASA cameras during the STS-75 tether incident, both displaying a disc shape with a distinctive notch and central circle.

Remote viewer Major Ed Dames joins to report his team's findings on the underwater structures discovered off Cuba at 2,200 feet. Dames confirms the site contains at least one, possibly two, large intact pyramids set on raised square bases amid extensive rubble. He attributes the catastrophe that sank the site to a close planetary passage matching descriptions from Zacharias Sitchin's work on Nibiru.

Dames then addresses the shadow people phenomenon, describing it as the most difficult target he has ever pursued. He also discusses his Mind Dazzle remote viewing training kit and the challenge James Randi's backers posed when they learned the military remote viewing team intended to take up Randi's million-dollar challenge.

Key Moments

  1. The Sharon Rollins UFO video and NASA's space tether match: Robert Kiviat describes the six-and-a-half-minute Derbyshire housewife video he licensed for $20,000 - a structured, pulsing disc-like craft that comes right over the cameraman. He links its shape (a disc with a notch and a spinning central circle) to the UFOs his Fox special documented circling NASA's broken space tether, suggesting both are huge structured objects miles wide.

  2. Dames remote-views pyramids under Cuba: Ed Dames reports his Technical Remote Viewing team locked onto the underwater anomaly off Cuba's coast and confirmed Pauline Zalitzky's sonar readings: at 2,200 feet down lies heavy rubble plus at least one - possibly two - large intact pyramids on raised square bases, structurally unlike the Giza pyramids and reminiscent of Cydonia on Mars.

  3. It went down in minutes - Nibiru as the cause: Dames says the urban area submerged 'in a matter of minutes,' and when his team probed the cause they identified a very large heavenly body that passed close to Earth - matching Zecharia Sitchin's description of the 10th/12th planet, Nemesis or Nibiru.

  4. The skeleton in Trevor's photo is a poltergeist: After Bell reads listener Amy's letter and shows the photo of her 11-year-old son with a skeletal form crawling up his body, Dames diagnoses it not as a shadow person but as a classic poltergeist - energy projected from the body of a prepubescent or schizophrenic child, the textbook profile of a 13-year-old epileptic girl mid-seizure.

  5. Shadow people are the shadows of ghosts: After six days of remote viewing focused on a former ranger's sighting, Dames concludes that the two-dimensional shadow forms people see moving along walls are literal shadows - cast by an energetic, mass-bearing presence (a ghost) interfering with light at a frequency just outside human vision. The shadow is easier to see than the entity casting it, which is why ghost reports are rare while shadow-people reports are common.