Lazar describes his recruitment through EG&G after meeting Edward Teller, his first glimpse of a disc-shaped craft sitting in a hangar, and the moment he realized the technology was not of human origin. He details the gravity-wave reactor he handled firsthand, a small device that produced a repulsive force field no object could penetrate.
Lazar also discusses his hydrogen-powered car, his jet-engine Honda, and a new film deal with Blue Book Films that promises to tell his story accurately. He reveals that only 22 people had clearance at S4 and confirms he still holds their names privately as verification of the program's existence.
Key Moments
How Edward Teller put Lazar on the path to S4: Lazar recounts how a Los Alamos Monitor front-page story about him and his jet car led to a chance meeting with Edward Teller, which he says triggered the EG&G call that brought him to the test site.
First sight of a disc on the hangar floor at S4: On his second day at S4, Lazar steps off the bus to find a roughly 52-foot disc-shaped craft sitting on its belly on the concrete with no landing gear, initially mistaking it for an advanced US fighter because of a small American flag near the doorway.
Touching the gravity wave from the reactor: Lazar describes the basketball-sized reactor and the directional gravity field it produced, comparing the repulsion to pushing two like-pole magnets together and saying not even a high-speed object could penetrate the field.
The frozen candle flame: Lazar recalls a colleague firing up the gravity amplifier with a lit candle six feet behind the emitter, then watching the flame freeze into a motionless two-dimensional picture of fire that still emitted light.
Element 115, the island of stability, and the S4 sledgehammer: Lazar explains element 115 as the super-heavy reactor fuel, points to Darmstadt's heavy-ion lab climbing the periodic table toward it since 1989, and when Art asks if he smuggled some out, he declines comment but jokes a chunk would make a good sledgehammer.