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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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June 13, 2004: Mexican UFOs - David Sereda

Jun 13, 2004
2h 52m
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Art Bell speaks with David Sereda about the Mexican military's release of infrared footage showing multiple unidentified objects tracked by an Air Force surveillance plane. David brings a unique perspective as someone who spent years working alongside top physicists on nuclear fusion and hydrogen energy breakthroughs. He describes how his early fascination with space led him into both alternative energy research and serious UFO investigation.

The conversation takes a surprising turn into suppressed energy technology. David details his work with physicist Bogdan Maglic on a helium-3 fusion reactor that produced 10 billion degrees through a self-colliding beam magnetic field with no dangerous radiation. He recounts how NASA officials begged Congress for funding, Nobel laureates endorsed the project, and the Air Force confirmed feasibility on supercomputers, yet every investor and government agency refused to move forward. David describes receiving threatening phone calls from Royal Dutch Shell when he sought private funding.

Art presses David on where the technology stands today and why no one has broken through the resistance. David connects helium-3 fuel abundance on the lunar surface to possible explanations for anomalous mining activity observed on the moon, suggesting a link between suppressed energy technology and the UFO phenomenon itself.

Key Moments

  1. Helium-3 fusion at ten billion degrees: Sereda describes Bogdan Maglich's self-colliding-beam helium-3 reactor: ten billion degrees confined magnetically, no heat cycle, all charged-particle output, with nine grams of fuel equaling a thousand barrels of crude oil and a square meter producing a gigawatt.

  2. Royal Dutch Shell intimidation call: Sereda recounts a fundraising call to Royal Dutch Shell on behalf of the L.A. Tesla Foundation in which an executive refused to let him hang up, told him he and his family were at dire risk, and invoked the unsolved death of cold-fusion researcher Eugene Mallove.

  3. Mexican Air Force FLIR footage: Sereda lays out the May 2004 Mexican Air Force release: eleven UFOs picked up by forward-looking infrared cameras over Campeche, three of them simultaneously on radar while eight remained invisible to radar, surrounding the pilots' aircraft.

  4. Targets that have mass but no visible light: Sereda explains how the FLIR locked onto the Campeche objects as long cylindrical structures emitting infrared at minus-26-degree altitude, while remaining completely invisible to the eye, paralleling translucent discs seen on Shuttle STS-75 footage.

  5. Trevor Constable's 1958 invisibles: Sereda links the Mexican infrared sightings to Trevor Constable, a retired British naval officer who began photographing invisible craft on high-speed infrared film in 1958, capturing translucent discs with black centers identical to objects later seen by NASA cameras.