Hodges describes his experimental work with anti-gravity, claiming that by inducing a specific resonant frequency into a pure metal plate, he can alter its gravitational interaction with Earth. He reports achieving small-scale levitation effects over five years of experimentation, though stability remains a challenge. The discussion extends to theoretical teleportation, where Hodges proposes scanning and transmitting the elemental signature of objects at the particle level, though he notes that life frequencies exist above the elemental range and cannot yet be replicated.
The conversation takes a philosophical turn as Hodges speculates about mapping individual life frequencies, suggesting each person carries a unique vibrational signature that could explain phenomena like instant personal connections, twin synchronicity, and even premonitions. He connects this to RFID tracking technology already in use and warns of a future where everything and everyone carries a scannable number. Art draws parallels between monitor flicker rates and reports of shadow people sightings.
Key Moments
Three Mile Island, the first robot inside: Hodges describes how Three Mile Island staff called on him after the 1979 accident to build a stainless-steel mobile robot that could enter the contaminated reactor and decontaminate walls so humans could follow.
Why Robbie the Robot never came home: Hodges argues that big automotive-style consolidation in the late 1980s killed the consumer-robotics dream by funneling all R&D toward narrow industrial applications instead of household robots that would handle everyday drudgery.
Anti-gravity through resonant vibration: Hodges claims gravity is a frequency-mediated attraction and that vibrating a pure copper plate at the resonance of a rare element like francium can make it behave as if it has many thousand times its own mass, lifting off the ground.
Five years of bouncing a metal plate: Hodges tells Art he has been experimenting with anti-gravity for about five years and can already 'bounce' a plate enough to get it to float, though it remains unstable like two like-poles of a magnet pushed together.
Carbon nanotubes and the space elevator: Hodges and Art discuss using carbon nanotubes to construct a NASA-style 'space elevator' that would carry cargo from Earth into orbit, as Hodges describes working in the femtosecond and atto-second domain to push computing past silicon's 700 GHz limit.