December 4, 2001: Ghost Hunting, North Carolina's Brown Mountain Lights - Joshua P. Warren
The conversation turns to the science behind ghost hunting, including electromagnetic field measurements, infrared photography, and Warren's experimental use of electrostatic generators as "ghost bait" to enhance paranormal activity at haunted locations. Warren explains his distinction between two types of ghosts: imprints that replay like a tape loop and conscious entities that interact with the living in real time.
Art opens the first hour with news commentary on the Afghanistan war, Bobby Fischer's shocking endorsement of the September 11 attacks, and listener reports of hearing mysterious voices in the twilight state between waking and sleep. Callers share UFO sightings, entity encounters, and an Area 51 worker's firsthand account of observing disc-shaped craft from the Nevada Test Site.
Key Moments
What the Brown Mountain Lights are: Warren describes orbicular, multicolored lights appearing on a Pisgah National Forest ridge for perhaps 800 years, splitting and lining up across the ridge.
One ghost in a thousand houses: After 500 to 1,000 haunted-house investigations, Warren says he has only seen what he would call a ghost a single time, though he has captured many other anomalies on tape.
Meter knocked over on videotape: Warren recounts footage from a haunted house where a sensitive field meter spiked, then was physically knocked forward and onto its side, a motion he says cannot be reproduced with a single line of magnetic force.
Ghost bait: electrostatic charges enhance activity: Warren explains pumping over 400,000 volts of protons or electrons into a haunted room to provoke phenomena, and describes a session where drumbeats, a moving object, and a partial apparition followed.
MRI machines and entities: Art shares emails from MRI technicians who report seeing entities around the magnets; Warren confirms his group recently spoke with an MRI operator describing the same thing, and discusses whether strong electromagnetic fields conjure or merely reveal phenomena.