December 18, 1998: Majestic 12 - Linda Moulton Howe & Glenn Pace
Pace recounts being told about craft retrievals predating Roswell, including one from the Ozarks in the early 1940s, consistent with the reported 1941 Cape Girardeau, Missouri incident. The MJ-12 member described the propulsion technology as magnetic in nature and said the power source was classified at a higher level than the atomic bomb. He also referenced a specific element used in the craft, which Pace later recognized as Element 115 when hearing Bob Lazar discuss it years later.
Linda connects this testimony to newly released MJ-12 documents, including the White Hot Intelligence Assessment from September 1947, which explicitly references the Missouri discovery and confirms the craft were deemed extraterrestrial in origin.
Key Moments
Card game origin of an MJ-12 disclosure: Linda Moulton Howe sets the scene: the early 1960s at the Nevada Test Site, where Glenn Pace played cards with physicist Otto Krauss and an MJ-12 staff member who explained how the group was formed.
Truman set up MJ-12 outside congressional control: The MJ-12 staff member at the card game tells Pace that Truman created the group by executive order because of UFOs and the fear of extraterrestrial attack, that the twelve members re-elect their own when one dies, do not answer to the president or Congress, and have their own deep budget.
Cape Girardeau 1941 predates Roswell: Krauss tells Pace that Roswell was not the first crash retrieval, the first came from the Ozarks in the early 1940s. Howe ties this to a Cape Girardeau, Missouri 1941 event referenced in the Wood-released MJ-12 documents.
Magnetic propulsion and Element 115: Pace recounts being told the recovered craft was magnetically propelled, with the power source classified above the atomic bomb, and that the talk involved Element 115, a number he later recognized when Bob Lazar described it on the air.
Live alien at Area 51 and exchange of technology: Pace says recovered live aliens were taken from Wright-Patterson to Area 51, that staff had learned to communicate with them, and that an exchange-of-technology arrangement is why the military fought so hard to close public viewing land like Freedom Ridge.