August 3, 1997: Cell from Hell - Linda Moulton Howe | Know Your Dreams - Jim & Pat Fregia
The Fregias explain that dreams are messages from the subconscious mind, arriving primarily in symbolic form every 90 minutes during sleep. They describe techniques for programming specific dreams, including writing questions on paper tucked inside a pillowcase, and discuss lucid dreaming as a method of taking conscious control within the dream state. Jim shares that he and Pat have verified out-of-body experiences by independently confirming details observed during astral travel.
Callers share vivid dreams including a Washington state listener warned to evacuate within 180 days and multiple reports of precognitive dreams preceding real-world events. The Fregias note that six callers from different states reported dreaming of a frequency change on Earth during the same week, coinciding with an unusual spike in disorientation cases reported by a local doctor.
Key Moments
Art's recurring scissors-in-the-ear dream: Art offers Pat and Jim Fregia his most-told dream: a doctor twists closed scissors slowly into his ear and his hearing improves with each turn. The Fregias read it on three levels - likely earwax buildup from 35 years of headphones (suggesting candle-wicking), and a deeper message that he isn't listening to his own quiet inner voice.
A national dream registry on the Internet: Art proposes a national dream registry on the Internet so dreams can be collected and collated daily to test whether mass precognitive dreaming is real, citing the Aberfan disaster precedent where a dozen people dreamed of a slag heap killing schoolchildren before it happened. The Fregias say they regularly get five or six callers reporting the same dream scenario in the days before a major event.
If God or the other guy: how to tell the source of a dream: Art presses the Fregias on whether precognitive dreams could come from a deceptive source rather than God. Pat answers 'by the product' - self-serving dreams point one way, calls to prayer or warnings to help others point the other - and tells the story of facing a real tiger in her room that she says was there to test her strength.
Out-of-body verification - meeting in India from Washington: Jim Fregia describes asking a sick friend back home to meet him out-of-body at the Sai Baba ashram in India after they'd traveled there in response to a dream visitation; on his return she described colors, places, structures, and people present that she had no way of knowing - Art admits he's reached the buzzing/paralysis edge but is too much of a control freak to let go.
Cell from Hell and the boiling-frog warning: Art uses the boiling-frog parable to set up the night's ecological alarm: deformed frogs from America to Japan to Canada, the 'cell from hell' off North Carolina killing millions of fish with open bleeding sores, UV-driven DNA changes in Antarctic single-celled organisms, and increasingly violent weather - concluding 'we are the frogs, and I think it's getting warm.'