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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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August 26, 2006: Slipping into Other Dimensions - Dr. Rick Strassman | Open Lines

Aug 26, 2006
2h 36m
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Art Bell opens with a brief interview with Dr. Rick Strassman, author of DMT: The Spirit Molecule, who discusses dimethyltryptamine as a naturally occurring compound that may mediate mystical experiences. Strassman describes his government-approved clinical research with DMT, noting that intravenous doses peak within two minutes and wear off in roughly thirty. He theorizes the pineal gland may produce endogenous psychedelic compounds. Strassman departs early due to illness.

Art then opens the phone lines for callers who have experienced conscious dimensional travel. A man in California describes sitting on a bench when reality shifted, placing him among pairs of people in quiet conversation, all rendered in soft pastel blues and grays. The beings could not see him, and after several minutes, normal reality returned. Other callers share similar involuntary slips into alternate realities, including a blind woman who saw beings of light during childhood.

Art reflects on the hundreds of emails pouring in from listeners with their own dimensional experiences, concluding the program has stumbled onto something significant. He connects the phenomenon to shadow people sightings and suggests that prolonged exposure to computer monitor refresh rates may subtly retune the brain, allowing brief glimpses into normally invisible realms.

Key Moments

  1. DMT, the pineal gland, and the biology of mystical experience: Strassman explains he ran the first US-government-approved psychedelic clinical research in over 20 years, hypothesizing that endogenous DMT release from the pineal gland may underlie spontaneous mystical experiences and that DMT is a chemical cousin of serotonin and melatonin.

  2. DMT - blasted out of a nuclear cannon in two minutes: Strassman describes the IV-administered DMT timeline used in his New Mexico hospital studies: onset within a heartbeat, peak in two minutes, coming down by three, completely normal at half an hour - distinct from a 12-hour LSD trip.

  3. Sandario Road inverted triangle and 17 missing minutes: A Fallon, Nevada caller named Mark recounts a Tucson encounter on Sandario Road around 1995: a 30-foot translucent orange inverted triangle in the road, his car dying, 17 missing minutes on his wind-up watch, and a small V-shaped scar behind his right ear.

  4. Steve's pastel-blue dimension at a Redding gas station: A Los Angeles caller named Steve describes pulling over at a Redding gas station on the way to Myrtle Creek, sitting on a bench, and abruptly finding himself among invisible-to-them couples standing by trees in long coats under a bluish-grey pastel light - exactly Art's working definition of a conscious dimension slip.

  5. Paul's plate of mushrooms and the reptilian eye: A caller named Paul recounts being handed his friend's overdose - a dinner plate of psilocybin mushrooms - then watching the friend's eyebrow piercing spin and his face turn alligator-yellow before being told 'today's the day you go to hell' and having the police called on him with a fabricated assault story.