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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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August 17, 2015: ET Contact - Joe Rogan & David Sereda

Aug 17, 2015
2h 19m
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Joe Rogan, comedian, UFC commentator, and podcast host, joins Art Bell in the first half for a conversation anchored by his DMT experiences. Rogan describes DMT as a neurotransmitter present in the human brain, lungs, and liver as well as thousands of plant species, producing encounters with entities that communicate through telepathic language and geometric patterns. He connects the telepathic contact users report to classic abduction narratives and speculates that endogenous DMT released during REM sleep may explain many such experiences. Rogan discusses sensory deprivation tanks, inviting Art Bell to try his Float Lab, and credits Terence McKenna's appearances on Art Bell with shaping his psychedelic interests.

The second half features David Sereda, who presents a framework for faster-than-light communication by calculating the resonant frequencies of distant stars using their circumference and the speed of light. Sereda claims that by inducting Pleiadian star frequencies into his nervous system through copper coils, he achieved contact with beings and remote-viewed Pluto's atmosphere days before New Horizons confirmed it. Art Bell plays calculated tones of five Pleiadian suns alongside NASA's recording of our own.

A night moving from DMT entities and deprivation tanks to quantum physics and Pleiadian frequencies without losing a step.

Key Moments

  1. Rogan describes DMT as contact with a higher power: Joe Rogan recounts his most profound DMT experience, describing telepathic communication, fractal geometric patterns, and a sense of being in the presence of a divine entity.

  2. DMT, dreaming, and UFO abduction overlap: Rogan ties endogenous DMT release in REM sleep to classic UFO abduction reports, citing Rick Strassman's research and the recurring telepathic-communication motif.

  3. Rogan on John Lilly and the sensory deprivation tank: Rogan describes his float tank, traces it to John Lilly's dolphin-LSD experiments, and explains the perceptual collapse of body, water, and air inside the chamber.

  4. Sereda's 1968 Berkeley UFO sighting and Pleiadian contact: David Sereda recounts a daytime flying-saucer sighting near the Berkeley campus as a child, followed by sleep-paralysis encounters with Pleiadian beings before UFO culture existed.

  5. Sereda's Pluto remote-viewing claim during New Horizons flyby: Sereda claims that pulsing his body with a calculated Pluto frequency caused an out-of-body experience in which he saw Pluto with a deep atmosphere, then says New Horizons confirmed an atmosphere days later.