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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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April 8, 2002: Consciousness and Remote Viewing - Russell Targ

Apr 8, 2002
2h 46m
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Art Bell speaks with physicist Russell Targ, co-founder of the Stanford Research Institute's investigation into psychic abilities and a pioneer in laser development. Targ describes how his early career as a stage magician taught him to distinguish genuine psychic signals from trickery, a skill that proved essential when the CIA recruited him to conduct remote viewing research under controlled laboratory conditions.

Targ explains the concept of non-locality, drawing on Einstein's EPR paper and quantum mechanics to argue that consciousness operates outside ordinary constraints of distance and time. He recounts how remote viewers at SRI successfully described Soviet military installations and Chinese weapons testing sites with startling accuracy. He also discusses published medical studies by his daughter Elizabeth, a psychiatrist, demonstrating that patients who received distant healing prayers had measurably better outcomes than control groups.

During the broadcast, Art asks listeners to direct healing energy toward Elizabeth, who is battling a brain tumor. Within thirty minutes, two people maintaining a vigil in her hospital room independently report the room filling with light. Targ also addresses why remote viewers have difficulty locating individuals like Osama bin Laden, explaining that the technique excels at describing fixed locations but struggles without visual landmarks.

Key Moments

  1. Stage magician's open secret about ESP: Targ recounts that as a graduate student at Columbia he performed stage magic, and says every magician sometimes 'reads' an audience member with information they shouldn't have - a quiet experience even ESP-hating magicians admit privately.

  2. Pat Price's Soviet R&D facility: Targ tells Bell about the SRI program's most successful work: psychic police commissioner Pat Price describing a Soviet research facility in such accurate detail that it triggered a congressional investigation of the SRI program.

  3. On-air healing prayer for daughter Elizabeth: Targ asks Bell's audience to send loving awareness to his daughter Elizabeth, who is gravely ill with a brain tumor. Bell endorses it on air and asks listeners to take a moment during the break to send healing energy. (Elizabeth Targ died later in 2002.)

  4. Loving awareness as testable hypothesis: Targ ties the SRI lab work to the mystic traditions - Buddhists, Vedas, Sufis, Kabbalah, Gnostic Christians - saying all describe a quieting practice that delivers an oceanic, out-of-body connection. The reward, he says, is discovering you ARE that flow of loving awareness.

  5. Psychic spy for the CIA - and found God: Asked what's next for remote viewing, Targ answers that 23 years of sitting in the dark teaching ESP for the government taught him his awareness is beyond his physical body. The 'payoff for working for the CIA,' he says, is waking up in a flow of loving awareness no one can take from him.