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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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April 2, 2005: Voices of the Dead - Brendan Cook & Barbara McBeath

Apr 2, 2005
2h 55m
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Brendan Cook and Barbara McBeath of the Ghost Investigators Society join Art Bell to present voices-of-the-dead electronic voice phenomena recordings after Art's opening reflections on Pope John Paul II, rising oil prices, and Yucca Mountain nuclear waste data. He notes Goldman Sachs predictions that oil could reach $100 per barrel and concerns over falsified data at the nuclear waste project.

The GIS members explain their transition from analog tape to digital recording equipment, noting that EVP results have continued undiminished regardless of the recording medium. They present voices captured at the Inn on Capitol Hill in Salt Lake City, including a gruff male voice saying "very feisty" in apparent response to a discussion about a former resident's wife. Additional recordings from their own homes capture a woman with an English accent, a voice pleading "let me go," and another demanding "why can't they shut up."

Art and the investigators discuss the nature of these voices, considering whether they represent spirits trapped on earth, residual electromagnetic imprints, or communications from another dimension. The GIS emphasizes that their work is entirely self-funded, with no books, donations, or profit motive behind their research.

Key Moments

  1. Art's eulogy for Pope John Paul II: On the night of John Paul II's death, Art delivers a personal tribute, calling him 'the real McCoy' and praising the Pope's choice to die at the Vatican rather than in a hospital, and to let the world watch him suffer.

  2. Yucca Mountain data fabrication scandal: Art reacts to news that government scientists may have planned to fabricate records on the Yucca Mountain nuclear waste project, calling it potentially the death knell of a dump meant to last 10,000 years.

  3. Skeptical caller challenges EVP credibility: A first-time caller asks Art why he is so credulous about EVP. Art defends his stance by pointing to the disturbing, non-religious content of the recordings as evidence against a fundamentalist hoax.

  4. Theory: ghosts are caused by emotion: Brendan Cook lays out the GIS theory: ghosts are tied to emotion or severe distress, which is why prisons and mental hospitals yield more threatening EVPs than cemeteries.

  5. EVP demo: 'He cut. What did he cut?': The GIS plays a recording captured at their kitchen table during conversation about the murdered Walmart girl in Texas; an unfamiliar voice appears to say 'he cut.'