The conversation turns to specific applications of this technique. Dames announces plans to map the exact underwater location of Natalie Holloway off the coast of Aruba, claiming her body was placed in a weighted lobster cage. He also reveals a gold recovery operation scheduled for June in the Sierra foothills and a project to predict the next non-man-made crop circle in North America, placing it near Clear Prairie, Alberta.
Art presses Dames on his timeline for dire global predictions, including widespread dairy cow disease and catastrophic solar events. Dames maintains these events will occur within five to ten years. The discussion also covers the physical nature of grey aliens based on remote viewing of the Travis Walton abduction, noting their different brain structure and delayed emotional processing.
Key Moments
Geofix breakthrough claim: Dames announces a new 'geofix' technique he says lets remote viewers locate any target to GPS precision, field-tested by hiding a cigarette case across 40 square miles of Las Vegas.
Natalie Holloway in a lobster cage: Dames states his team's remote-viewing finding on the disposition of Natalie Holloway: her body was stuffed in a weighted lobster cage and sunk off Aruba, and he promises to mark an X on a map.
Hurricane landfall challenge: Art proposes Dames put together a remote-viewing team to call the exact landfall point of the next major Gulf hurricane two or three days out; Dames accepts.
Crop circles as ETI calling cards: Dames argues SETI is looking the wrong way and that genuine crop circles are calling cards from extraterrestrial intelligence already present on Earth.
Kill shot, Mad Max, and an object in the sky: Dames describes solar 'kill shot' flares triggering a Mad Max era, then three warring factions on the ground halting when something physical and unprecedented appears in the atmosphere.