Author Craig Winn joins to recount his journey into Palestinian-controlled territory, where he met face to face with members of Al-Qaeda, Hamas, and the Aqsa Martyrs Brigade at gunpoint. After crossing no man's land with only a pen and paper, Winn spent six hours interviewing terrorists who quoted directly from Islamic scripture to justify their violence. He argues that their citations were accurate and in context, contradicting the mainstream narrative that terrorism represents a perversion of Islam.
Winn contends that the vast majority of Muslims worldwide do not know their own scriptures, and that proper exposure to those texts would cause most to leave the faith rather than radicalize. He proposes that cutting off oil revenue to kingdoms that fund extremist mosques and schools would be more effective than military occupation, and criticizes the decision to invade Iraq as fundamentally misguided.
Key Moments
Mossad warns: 'You're a dead man if you're not on God's mission': Winn describes the moment a Mossad agent told him he would not survive crossing into Palestinian-controlled territory unless he was truly called to meet with the terrorists waiting for him.
Six hours of paraded terrorists in an interrogation room: Winn recounts being placed in a bare prison-style room where, for six hours, terrorists were brought in one after another to explain why they want to kill Americans, with nine-year-olds carrying automatic weapons outside.
Terrorists quoted scripture 100% of the time: Winn says every terrorist he interviewed justified killing Americans by quoting the Quran and the hadith verbatim, framing the conflict as 'believe or die.'
The real composition of a dirty bomb: Winn warns the American media has misreported dirty bombs and that a real one would use cobalt-60 and strontium-90, not benign barium, and Art urges listeners to take it seriously.