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From the High Desert

A Cultural History of Art Bell

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September 1, 1996: Crop Circles - Linda Moulton Howe | CSETI - Dr. Steven M. Greer

Sep 1, 1996
1h 19m
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Investigative journalist Linda Moulton Howe delivers a double bombshell on this Dreamland broadcast, reporting new findings on the Roswell museum's metallic fragments and a stunning videotape that appears to capture a crop circle forming in seven seconds. Los Alamos chemist Larry Callis reveals that silver and copper fragments contain mysterious alternating micron-thick layers, echoing the anomalous layered structure of the bismuth-magnesium material Howe has been investigating. Crop circle researcher Colin Andrews describes watching the color footage from Oliver's Castle, where luminous spheres glide over a wheat field as a snowflake pattern materializes beneath them in real time.

Dr. Steven M. Greer of CSETI then joins Art Bell to unveil Project Starlight, a years-long initiative to collect whistleblower testimony and brief world leaders on extraterrestrial contact. Greer describes meetings with senior CIA officials, congressional leaders, and United Nations diplomats, claiming that even heads of state have been denied access to deeply compartmentalized unacknowledged special access projects. He argues that covert programs have used sophisticated disinformation campaigns, including fabricated abduction scenarios, to discredit the entire subject.

The conversation turns philosophical as Art challenges Greer on the implications of disclosure. Greer makes a passionate case that the end of the Cold War has eliminated the rationale for continued secrecy, and that humanity's survival depends on confronting the reality of extraterrestrial intelligence.

Key Moments

  1. Los Alamos chemist Larry Callis: alternating copper-silver layers in Roswell fragments: Linda Moulton Howe reports Los Alamos National Lab chemist Larry Callis found 8 and 19 alternating layers of copper and silver in two thin Roswell museum fragments, each layer about 25 microns thick - paralleling the bismuth-magnesium layered material she has been investigating.

  2. Colin Andrews on the Oliver's Castle 7-second crop circle video: Crop circle researcher Colin Andrews describes the color videotape filmed at dawn August 11 from Oliver's Castle: two glowing spheres enter, the snowflake formation appears in seven seconds, two more spheres come out of the field, and the wheat is seen oscillating with light reflecting off the stems.

  3. Andrews on military presence and the cameraman's account: Andrews says he has established there was a major NATO military exercise in the area that night, and the cameraman reported being asked by a departing soldier, 'Did you get what you came for?' - prompting Andrews to engage an investigative agency at personal cost to vet the witness.

  4. Greer launches Project Starlight - coalition of insider witnesses: Dr. Steven Greer publicly describes Project Starlight: a strategy of identifying and assembling deep-throat whistleblowers from covert UFO programs into a coalition that will testify together at Congress or the United Nations rather than dribble out one witness at a time.

  5. Greer on USAPs: how UFO secrecy outranks the President: Greer explains the mechanics of Unacknowledged Special Access Projects (USAPs) and contract work in private corporations, and says senior figures including Lord Hill-Norton (former UK Ministry of Defence head) told him directly they were never briefed despite their positions.